Trey Gowdy breaks with Trump: FISA memo doesn't have 'any impact' on Robert Mueller's investigation

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Your suspicions misfire, Mac-7. Mueller is moving forward!
     
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    I’m on record to allow mueller to do his thing

    As long as we have a 2nd council to investigate the DOJ and FBI including mueller if necessary
     
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    The SC/Mueller did not go to the FISA court and seek the warrants. This memo is solely about that. That is why it does not directly pertain to them.
    That being said the questions are did the SC office use any information from the dossier, how did the FBI present the dossier to the SC. Did Mueller ever question the evidence? Did Mueller know about the conflicts within his own office. Was tne dossier used before the grand jury to obtain subponeas or warrants.
     
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    Not likely, the RUskies wanted tRUmp in the WH since they own him. At the least, they wanted HC as weak as possible and the GOP congress as strong as possible. Now, the GOPers that took RUssia dark money are also threatened by Mueller. :). Can you smell their fear?
     
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    First sentence is based in legal grounds. Your second sentence is not, there has to be underlying crime for an SC to be appointed. The GOP/tRUmp/FOX is trying to convince you of this.
     
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    The legal grounds that led to the mueller appointment are highly suspect

    In fact they do not seem to exist at all
     
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    Opinion, but the legal grounds do exist to appoint SC Mueller, an actual fact. :)
     
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    Only in your opinion

    We need to see the entire unredacted FISA application
     
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  9. JakeStarkey

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    FISA has seen the application, has considered it, and the misfits on Trump Island will see it in due time.
     
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    Not likely. If the legal grounds did not exist, there would be legal challenges not RW smoke screens.
     
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    In due time when?
     
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    Can’t bring legal challenges against a secret court.
     
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    Its a secret court so I prefer to let a special council answer these questions
     
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    I'm OK with that, as long as we have a 3rd council to investigate the 2nd council.
     
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    Exactly

    The victims are lije fish trapped in a gill net
     
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    No

    one on each side is enough
     
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    Not going to happen, no legal grounds based in crimes. The RW just want to tout a 2nd SC to create a competing scandal smoke screen, you know, look over here instead.
     
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    The obvious politicization of Obama administration leadership needs to be investigated.
     
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    I am still confused as to why there is a Mueller investigation, aside from it making the fringe left all warm and happy. It is entirely based on a lie as demonstrated by the memo. The lie was political and the folk pushing the lie were the political wing of the FBI and Justice dept. Fruit of the poisonous tree applies. If the basis of a legal decision was itself illegal than the decision and all the actions that followed were too rotten to stand...

    Yet the Mueller investigation plods on...and on....and on.

    Republican politicians should LOUDLY demand the farce end and further, advise that no charges arising from the illegal process will be considered valid and that Trump should pardon each and every person charged by the hacks running the process.
     
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    The deep state is simply the organized bureaucrats at the top of many federal agencies who have decided to use their power for political ends.
     
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    Of course there is an investigation...That is not the question...The question is WHY is there an investigation when the underlying rationale for the investigation has been proven to be simply crap politics and illegal actions by departments weaponized to attack the president.

    If the actual real investigation is built on crap, why allow it to continue. The answer is simple, the Congress is terrified of the lefts media.
     
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    Somebody needs to read section #5 of the Nunes memo (again?)....
     
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    Your side scored a special council based on bullshit but I see real question about what the DOJ and FBI swamp rats have been up to
     
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    Absolutely material to the Mueller investigation and what they are, at least supposed, to be investigating. Why aren't they investigating the dossier and how Russia tried to interfere and DID interfere in the election with it and how the Clinton campaign and DNC colluded with a foreign national even paying them for dirt on their political opposition. You know the ONLY collusion which has been confirmed.

    The fact is we need a second SC to investigate what happened in that process and at this point believe the IG report will support that based on what we know went on.
     
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    The Russians didn't "want" either candidate, they wanted to sue the seeds of discord and confusion as the Democrats helped them right along with the dossier and phony charges. The fear I smell is from former and one current FBI/DOJ officials.
     

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