Excellent OP, I agree with that and your quote above closely targets the root cause of some of the worse mass shootings we've seen in America. I've been studying this topic for over 20 years and found enough evidence to say that some of these shooting events have been orchestrated by the very people that desire to disarm the American people. I say "some of these shootings" because not all are orchestrated. Some are copycat or "monkey see-monkey do" and others occur simply due to the side effects of SSRI drugs. In short, if you take an immoral leftist psychiatrist with an anti-gun agenda, some SSRI drugs, the latest state of the art hypnosis technology, and access to person with a naturally twisted personality, and what results is a mass murderer who, most times, will destroy the evidence by committing suicide. Then sit back and watch the concept of Hegelian Dialectic take effect as the people themselves cry out for anti-gun measures. The Hegelian Dialectic is more simply stated as a technique used for centuries to control the masses where a specific agenda is accomplished by first creating the chaos (mass shootings) to ultimately bring about order or control (gun controls & confiscation). The plan is working, especially when young white children are the ones being killed. It also explains why we never see school shootings in low income black communities where guns are more plentiful & accessible and mentally ill people would be less prone to receive treatment. Time to wake up America. --pete--
More will die if you pass gun control. Look, you hate this country so bad, why don't you get on a plane and take your B.S. to some country where it will be appreciated. Try to educate yourself. This is NOT a control thread.
Thank you. Your post shows that you understand the problem. The mental health community is almost, to a man, anti-gun. So, they are at a loss to tell you why the overwhelming majority of mass shooters are white. Or so they would have you believe. How is it so many more whites are dying off due to opioids than any other race? https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/opioid-overdose-deaths-by-raceethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"} How is it that whites almost have a monopoly on mass shootings while in every other category (including murder by firearms) of violent crime, the black people - per capita AND by raw numbers account for the highest number? How is it that the bulk of victims of mass shootings are white? I'm asking questions, not making allegations. Cops don't believe in coincidences and neither do I. Then there is that Hegelian Dialectic thing. It's a whole different conversation than what the usual suspects want to argue over. Oh, wait just a minute. The paid shill will be here with his usual canard. He has all the answers.
In regards to manipulation of the masses, killing white children would be more effective at getting an uprise from the American people. As for the opioid crisis affecting mostly white people, that's a whole other issue unrelated to anything I'm talking about in this thread. --pete--
pete, I think that we have not explored the mixing of SSRIs and opioids OR what might happen should one get off their SSRIs and begin taking opioids - or vice versa. There is no doubt that killing white children has gotten an uprise from the American people - one to ban guns. And guns are about as responsible for the mass shootings as cars are responsible for DUI wrecks that claim lives. Nobody ever whines over the assault cars. The bottom line, however, is that we know who is most likely going to commit a violent act. Our society decided not to act on it. 42,000 NONSMOKERS die each year from the effects of second hand smoke. Where are the threads wherein posters are demanding cigarette bans? As a society, we've accepted the risk for the enjoyment of that Freedom. Nobody gives a rat's rear about the SSRI issue, so we are the most medicated country on the planet and we accept the risks and the carnage (not to mention the destroyed lives of the users.) The left cannot explain how all those other deaths are so much more palatable than someone getting killed by a firearm... and someone they knew was going to do it!!!!!
Said plans have been presented numerous times, however they are dismissed out of hand on the basis that they do not actually target firearms, or in any way interfere with the legal ownership of such.
Such a proposal cannot be implemented as it is devoid of actual substance, thus making them meaningless.
Let me repeat this for the gun owners on this thread: Ignore the trolls. This is not a gun control thread. This thread is about the right taking charge and working toward preventative measures. Personally, I don't care who is at fault regarding the past. Those who are dead can only be resurrected by Jesus. What we can do is quit the silly ass finger pointing and decide what we do next. The trolls and the shills KNOW that they don't have any answers. That is why they continue to repeat myths that have been debunked over and over and over again. As long as they keep you sidelined with their idiotic talking points that have no merit, you will stay focused on who did or did not do something in the past. Time to get beyond the control argument and who did or not do this, that, or the other. Let's begin identifying those who will most likely commit a violent act and let's get them the help they need. So, let's be specific, once a person is deemed to be at risk, we need to establish a protocol. For instance, a school resource officer keeps a record of a child that is suspended. The police are called to the home of a child for a disturbance. Police contact the school, which in turn, supplies the record of a child's misbehavior. Once a record is established, an intervention is justified. Have a county psychologist assess the child. Give that child an IQ test; interview them to determine their propensity for violence. Have the DFACS / CPS agencies make a visit to the home and determine what kind of conditions the child is living in. Let's put some ideas on the table.
Largely because we realize death is a fact of life and that no amount of gun control will stop criminals and nuts. The fact is that parents are still sending their kids to school because they realize just how minuscule school shootings are. As with all criminal acts that take lives, this one is a sad tragedy, but it doesn’t call for us to live in fear and a less free country. No way would I want to live under this pathetic government: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ooting-burglar-confronts-second-intruder.html
There is only one mass shooter I can think of that would not have been stopped by our current laws, and that is the Vegas shooter. All of the rest of them either had a history of violence, were under terrorism surveillance, had a history of mental health problems, or had already been reported to law enforcement who did nothing.
And so, here is where we stand: The left calls the truth a lie and lies the truth. They tell us how they are concerned with human life; however, if a proposal does not include gun control, they are not interested in pursuing a solution. The left has their trolls and paid shills to come here and try to argue for something this thread isn't even about and serve as a distraction to the reality. But, everybody here knows that what you're saying is true. They choose to ignore it. But, therein IS the solution. If they already know who poses a threat, there is the option of an intervention. And, if that leads to further action (like a legal investigation) then maybe something could be done other than a criminal action. I'm hoping that some of the other posters here will address this aspect of the conversation as I'm tired of responding to desperate left wing trolls who realize that if we do have this conversation, all their B.S. becomes irrelevant and moot.
Factually incorrect. This is a gun control forum. Its right at the top of the page. You can't miss it. LOL
To suggest that gun control can not be part of the solution is ridiculous on the face of it. And this is a gun control forum
So if Trump and the GOP are against enforcing laws, what sense does it make to pass more laws that will go unenforced?
