The case for canceling all student debt

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope rationality, rather than your opinion, dictates...
     
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    Second best in America (currently) is white kids. Since you're interested in such things.
     
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    Evening classes are perhaps needed to ensure relevant argument to comment?
     
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    It's not 'rational' for a lender to decide the conditions of their financing?
     
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    Don't like the stat? I've heard that middle class white Americans who hold a 1970's worldview, feel the same. It plays merry hades with the narrative.
     
  6. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    The problem IS the government, they caused the whole mess!!

    Have fun with your race card.. I'll make my decisions based on facts thank you.
     
  7. Reiver

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    You ignore the economics don't you now? That's a shame! Social benefits ensure underprovision.

    What I love about you fellows is how you're convinced you're right because you don't understand basic education analysis. It amuses
     
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    Oh and buy make them use endowments I mean no government money or access no grants, research funds, internships, ROTC programs, any other government career track opportunity, no deals with government museums, no help with dealing with foreign governments they get nothing including student loans. Harvard it sitting on a fortune they could have housing and tuition lower than a good State school if they just spent some of the annual investments they and other schools want to get government access then make them do so or they get slowly cut off.
     
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    How was education before government involvement? Please be educated and refer to the evidence.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Well, a college degree used to mean something..
    No longer.. More likely a red flag..
    Literally RED, as in they are now comrades and waving red flags..
     
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    I don't want uneducated grunt. Try again: How was education before government involvement? Please be educated and refer to the evidence.
     
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    All too often, government programs reward poor behavior/bad decisions and punish good behavior/good decisions. And the well-being of society suffers as a result.
     
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    Not true! All too often they reward an inefficient status quo, with an elite benefitting from the consequences.

    More importantly, why can'rt you see that?
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much described leftism..
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    We have not been thoroughly washed from reality as you have..
     
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    In this country, it was all govt funded (as in, free) originally - but only a small percentage of kids continued to university. It was never more than about 20% of high school graduates, at best. Counter-intuitively, when fees were introduced, that figure increased to 30+%.
     
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    Its a shame it isn't more educated!
     
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    Just refer to one empirical analysis in support of your position! Good luck
     
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    which 'it' is that?
     
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    Most people don't make 120k out of the gate. In fact virtually no one does. I made the mistake of looking at salaries when I chose my engineering major only to switch 2 years in and even then engineers only start at an average of 60K. Hell most lawyers don't even make that much money. Had I to do it all over again I would go into one of the trades because most of the people I know that stuck with electrician or plumbing careers are making bank now and have their houses paid off in their mid 30s. The only downside is that its hard work and you have to like getting dirty but you make tons of money and if you play your cards right and buy land or invest you can retire by the time you are 45 which a couple people I know managed to do.
     
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    I paid with my own earnings for both myself and my son and daughter, then I too should be reimbursed for the money spent at the current value relative to the dollars spent.
     
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    Then he is never asked to repay his debt.

    Art, however can be a very lucrative profession.
    Opportunities exist in music, graphics, television, advertising, film and many other commercially viable enterprises.
     
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    The more important question is: how many working class people who, although they would have excelled, do not take an Arts degree because of the stupidity of charging fees?
     
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