Workers, Blacks, And Hispanics Should Form Their Own Political Party

A notion I have had since a youngster...Only wealthy people are actually ..."white".

 

I suppose that is exactly the point. From what I can gather, people who are not effected by such activity have difficulty empathizing with those who have to put up with such nonsense.

 

There have been wealthy black people around for a while.

 

Perhaps people put forward notions like what you just put forward should form their own ideological parasite party.

 

That is a notion of the brainwashed.

 

Indeed, but in the dominant cultural narrative of the 'white' controlling class... as opposed to everyone else...

 

Maybe the 'tired of working for parasites party'.

 

Then let's stop worrying about all those wealthy blacks.

Sounds good to me.

 

Well the dominant controlling class is predominantly white, no doubt about it.

 

I have a black husband. He's never experienced negative police attention, while other black males we know have. The difference? How he presents himself and how he conducts himself. He's clean, 'conservative' (in the corporate sense), educated, and scrupulously well behaved. His parents (also black, obviously) likewise have never had a moments grief from the fuzz ... in their adoptive white nation. Medical professional and a lawyer, respectively. Conservative, educated, well groomed, and well behaved. All three of them are fully supportive of LE and their profiling, because they no more want crime in the community than you do. They say that if a certain ethnic group (even their own) is committing most of the crime, then police should 'go hard' in terms of that group. They are not racist, reverse or otherwise.

I don't empathise because I know that it all comes down to personal choice - ie, behavior, appearance, who you associate with, where and how you choose to spend your free time, etc. It's only going to be 'nonsense' if you feel you should be able to make poor choices and get away with it.

 

Perhaps the projecting their tired laziness onto other people party.

 

You are worried about them?

 

Well I am clean, educated, and have mostly very conservative habits. I have experienced it. So I don't buy your notion that is the difference.

 

You don't have to. It's the lived experience of pretty much every conservative and educated black person I know (and all the black people I know are conservative and educated ... now. we used to mix with some slightly less .. ah .. nerdy types). There is always going to be certain number of mistakes made in profiling, but as long as it doesn't kill us, it's reasonable for us to tolerate this. Better that LE inconvenience a few along the way, than see perps go free for fear of upsetting innocent egos.

Further, I think you know that how you present yourself is about 90% of it, if not more. I realise that leaves room for error, but this is part and parcel of the nature of policing.

 

Well, if we are going to go by our personal experiences, I am black and have been around all types of black people. Furthermore I have been alive long enough to have experienced first hand segregation. Both of my parents were highly educated people so I have been around quite a few wealthy conservative black people. I have also been around quite a few poor blacks and all in between. What I am saying happens, and I am not the only black person who says that.

 

I mentioned that we know black (and white) people who've been targeted. It happens. But I maintain that it's a small price to pay for keeping crime in check, as long as no violence is involved. If it's mere inconvenience and insult, consider it a community service.

 

I can't say I know for sure, but that stuff may be worse for Hispanics than it is for blacks. I say that because the last time I actually came in contact with an issue like that, it really didn't involve me, but my Hispanic friend that I was with. I remember we were both in the park sort of late, around 10 one night. My friend had dabbled in martial arts at one time, and was showing me some things that I could use to defend myself. Then the police came up. They just asked to see my license and then left me alone. However, they were all over my friend. Starting asking him all sorts of questions. It was really far out.

 

How are "workers" different from "blacks and hispanics" on that? I'm not sure why "blacks and hispanics" are not also workers? Why the separation of race from class?

 

I did not say that they were different on that. Your question was in what areas do the groups that I mentioned aligned. As far as why mention blacks and Hispanics, I have made mention of that a couple of times in the thread.

 

I guess I'm not understanding why workers, blacks, and hispanics belong in the same same party, but gays, whites, and Asians don't. I'm not understanding what you are trying to propose.

 

You don't think that gays, whites and Asians are workers?

 

Well there you go. First, you were (presumably) young or youngish males, in a public park, at 10pm. That does tend to raise alarms. In fact it would raise alarms period, regardless of the ethnicity of those involved.

I'm wondering if they (LE) were actually on the lookout for someone who fit your friend's general description. It's entirely possible.

 

that's pretty much every one, now.

the key is 'workers'. what I've been saying all along.

 

Sure, blame the kid for being kids...

 

Well it has been a some years, but not that long ago. I was not young, as in under 30 when it happened. Any rate, I'm just saying. It was rather interesting. I was really scared for my friend.