Pistol packing teachers

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  1. Josephwalker

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    All of your questions could be asked about a CC license in general and are not especially school specific. I don't see any difference between someone with a CC license carrying in a mall or in a school. As for anyone wanting to require teachers carry I just have not seen that and if I did I would ignore that particular person as they would be a fringe element in the discussion.
     
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    I'm on record as saying our public school teachers are by and large more interested in liberal indoctrination than in education but those teachers are not part of this debate because they don't have a CC license anyway and are likely anti gun. There is a small percentage of teachers though that don't fall into this category and those with a CC license should have the right to use it in schools if they so desire. Might even save some lives.
     
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    And everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that only about 1/4 of all teachers think teachers should carry guns. All the other teachers most likely think it's a bad idea and don't want any guns in the schools. As well, we don't have any information to suggest that the majority of parents would agree to guns in their child's school. It's an idea that is truly dead in the water. And don't give the example that teachers in Israel carry guns, because they don't: it is forbidden by law.
     
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    They didn't have a duty to be murdered: the gun culture in America needs to tone it down and ban assault weapons. These kids and teachers are only sitting ducks because gun advocates make them so.
     
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    The legal carrying of concealed firearms by educators at facilities of learning in the united states has been going on for decades without incident.
     
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    Pray tell, how did an individual carrying a rifle manage to even get into the school to begin with? Why was security so lax that something like that was even possible? Why are the facility doors not locked to prevent unauthorized access from the outside?
     
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    In expontentially limited instances in small rightwing rural communities. Not anything to use as an example for the country as a whole.
     
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    No, the really question is, the bottom line is why did this individual even have a gun? Why do private citizens have legal, easy access to assault rifles?
     
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    Maybe we need more right wing communities.
     
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    And those same teachers would be against CC in general and are likely NRA haters but people do carry in public and the NRA does exist so your point is moot.
     
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    The problem is that you cannot force teachers to teach in schools where there are guns or parents to send their kids to schools where there are guns. Too bad, so sad.
     
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    Lol no its not! The NRA isn' saying to force teachers to have guns - where did you read that?
     
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    Right and you can't force parents to send their kids to substandard public schools that indoctrinate instead of educate thus we have private schools and home schooling. Too bad so sad.
     
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    It is currently legal in eighteen states. Including the states of New York and California.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...-allow-k-12-teachers-to-carry/article/2649321

    Does this mean that teachers cannot carry guns on campus? Not in all cases. The Gun-Free School Zones has exceptions. A teacher can bring a gun to school “as part of a program approved by a school in the school zone.” Currently, there are at least 18 states which allow armed adults on school property with relatively minor conditions.


    A 2013 NBC News investigation found:


    • Alabama (which bans possessing a weapon on school grounds only if the carrier has "intent to do bodily harm")
    • California (with approval of the superintendent)
    • Connecticut (with approval of "school officials")
    • Hawaii (no specific law)
    • Idaho (with school trustees' approval)
    • Iowa (with "authorization")
    • Kentucky (with school board approval)
    • Massachusetts (with approval of the school board or principal)
    • Mississippi (with school board approval)
    • Montana (with school trustees' permission)
    • New Hampshire (ban applies only to pupils, not adults)
    • New Jersey (with approval from the school's "governing officer")
    • New York (with the school's approval)
    • Oregon (with school board approval)
    • Rhode Island (with a state concealed weapons permit)
    • Texas (with the school's permission)
    • Utah (with approval of the "responsible school administrator")
    • Wyoming (as long as it's not concealed)
     
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    No, they aren't being used in such murders, and the requirements to get one are so strenuous that I can't recall seeing a school shooting where one was used. Can you?

    "Assault rifle: magazine fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use."

    https://www.google.com/search?ie=UT...att-us&source=android-browser&q=assault+rifle



    And they'e sitting ducks because gun control advocates make them so. Gun rights advocates did not make gun free zones.
     
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    And yet you conversely maintain that you can force parents to send their children to failing schools that also leave their children vulnerable?

    Or are you actually arguing for school choice?
     
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    Because the system went unused even when terroristic threats were made. Everyone in a position of authority, including law enforcement, including the FBI itself, chose to believe that no problem existed, despite the numerous reports that were made.

    The deadliest school shooting in united states history was carried out with two handguns, utilizing magazines limited to ten rounds of ammunition each.
     
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    Good info, I didn't know that
     
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    It is presently being done in eighteen states without issue.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you'e shown is either your own ignorance regarding gun laws or what assault rifles are. Or both.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But notice how many times that says "with approval"? This kind of reminds me of how I think it was Chicago the rule was that you may get a concealed csrry license with approval, approval which no applicant whatsoever was approved on for years.
     
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    Hilarious.
     
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    The law does not force any school or school district to allow teachers to carry guns. It has to be done under the approval of the district and or the school. And that won't be done w/o the approval of parents and teachers.
     
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    Canada, Australia, Europe, japan....etc. Its called gun control
     
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    Geez, why do you insist on stretching the truth beyond what the facts will bear? At least one state there does provide that teachers with proper licensure can carry on campus.
     

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