Russia is now king...hypersonic nukes can't be stopped!

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    If you think Russia is not our enemy you are hiding your head in the sand. I know that Democrats do tend to want tonspend less on our military that us one major disagreement with a Democrats. WhatvI have not seen is any specific cuts in specific military programs. If you have facts present them. Yes I realize that money is fungible so if you cut the military budget the military will need to prioritize where it uses the budget.

    A lot of R&D is done by universities undervscjentific research. I am not talking specific weapon systems development but raw research. That type of funding was cut not only by Democrats by is one of the favorite whiling boys of Republicans.
     
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    Putin is a filthy scum Turd imperialistic KGB trained and KGB infused bastard but he us not stupid. That is one vital reason that he is indeed a serious enemy. Make no mistake about that. The Trumpeizdas are making fun if and denying that Russia at least attempted to interfere in our lectionaries system to destabilize us makes me sick. Trump being the chief denier plays right into the hands of that KGB scum Turd.
     
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    Remember when Obama directed NASA that it was no longer in the space business but was now was in the business of making Muslims feel good about themselves ?

    The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sc...-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

    How Barack Obama ruined NASA space exploration... http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...ow-barack-obama-ruined-nasa-space-exploration

    There were many unhappy campers at JPL for eight years.

    Have more than a few friends who work at JPL and Cal-Tech all who were unhappy campers with the many projects being defunded and shelved. Many were DARPA projects that Obama administration cut off funding for.

    One project would have saved many soldiers and Marines lives on the battlefield. Because I signed a letter of confidentiality I can't say what it is but I played a very small part in the research and testing. It was defunded and shelved.

    It was Obama and the Democrats in Congress who shut down the F-22 production line.




     
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    That's the only countermeasure I can think of dealing with hypersonic missiles.
     
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    See this link. Claims Obama 's budget called for increase in weapons systems. What do you say about that?
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...nse_budget_it_favors_big_weapons_systems.html
     
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    Of course they are. When the FSB attained power in 2000 they had a vision for a reinvigorated Russia, one that would capture some of that Soviet glory. This put them directly at odds with American geo-strategy, which is where they remain today.

    Obama and Trump wanted to pretend that Russia just needed someone it could get along with. The fact of the matter is that they don't trust the Americans.

    There's no point in moralizing about it, it's nothing new. Without distrust history would not move as it does, it's baked into the fabric.
     
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    Obama was intitially against muss,e defense systems since he thought it was unproven but changed his mind.

    https://www.heritage.org/defense/report/president-obamas-missile-defense-policy-misguided-legacy
     
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    See link- Trump's defense budget much the same likecObama's..
    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/24/15681846/trump-defense-budget-obama-readiness
     
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    Seems you just can't shake this canada thing?
     
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    The russkis dont trust anyone....even themselves for that matter, theyre treacherous unto themselves.
     
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    Except when :flagus: needed Russia, such as the Revolutionary War and WW2,
    :flagus: has always treated Russia as "our enemy".
    The Democracy vs Imperial thing? Or just barely European
    :lol:

    Can anyone give me a historical example otherwise?


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g




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    Make :flagcanada: pay
    its' fair share for

    hypersonic missile defense.
     
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    Our enemy in some regards, friend in others. They were an invaluable ally during the invasion of Afghanistan.
     
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    What an ally. Aiding the establishment of :flagus: longest war :lol:
    And we still don't get out. Not even via Trump campaign promise.
    Y'think the Russians had it figured that way? Sneaky those Russians.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Wait, was your assertion that we viewed them as an enemy or that they are an enemy?
     
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    They are treated like the enemy except when we need them
    such as the Revolutionary War and WW2. See above

    Aiding :flagus: involvement in Afghanistan after their experience there
    seems as if it could have been duplicitous. :hmm: sneaky they are
    Russians knew they are better at "getting out" than :flagus:. And demonstrated it.
    I mean Osama bin Ladin is still dead and wasn't there when we got him.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g



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    Russia's Polar Partner
    Ain't just geography.

    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Our real enemies are the islamic and evangelical radicals.
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    Any thing, can be stopped.

    Russian citizens need a little mood booster, that's all.
     
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    The radicals never stood much of a chance. But moderate Islamists? They're capable of forming a wide coalition.
     
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    Sounds like Putin has no idea what this country has. I wonder if his story is bait hoping to learn more about our systems?

    I get a charge out of claims of super fast missiles that turn fast. The higher the speed, the arc looks more like a straight line, slightly curving.
     
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    Not with that new anti grav technology. We can turn on a dime with no G-Force, so the missiles stay in tact.

    oops, gave it away.
     
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    If those don't knock them down our photon torpedoes moving near light speed will stop them. Then, we have the deflector shield array that no nuke can penetrate.
     
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    All else fails, we have the hand-held EMF rifles that neutralize the shaped charge detonators.

    :D
     
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    Last years with the NATO crawling to Russian borders there was enough room to negotiate, but this opportunity was neglected by the westerners. Last week I saw lots of articles about a possible sudden strike using the existing (!) infrastructure of NATO. The new rockets really make this system effective (relatively) against north Korean rockets, possible Iranian rockets (which don't exist) and some efficiency against China (but pretty much useless). All the billions invested into attacking position against Russia were made useless. This is not a new step of arms race. This is a closing step for the race started after the collapse of the USSR.

    The peace stays on the mutual ability of the US and Russia to destroy the world in case of successful first strike of any of them. Trump or Putin cannot make an order to attack each other without being destroyed. But the US using the territory of eastern Europe and technologies of SM-3 anti-rocket defense and its Aegis system and possible buildup in space could hope to make a highly precision hit to destroy nearly 100% of Russian capabilities for a return strike. This was favourable for the US and they really hoped that Russia having all of its numerous problems after the collapse of the USSR will not have the time even to maintain the old soviet infrastructure. This imbalance put the world at risk that the first blow from americans would mean their great and fast, 'bloodless' (lives of Russians weren't counted) victory. This is why westerners and guys from puppet states of eastern Europe haven't considered Russians as humans (not all of them of course). This is why we have all this antirussian propaganda in the mainstream media.

    Basically this news is about peace. The main thing now is to process the information at the US government. I am afraid that they will make another step for even bigger investments into nuclear weaponry trying to return to the point when the first strike of americans would be deadly for Russia. The next step of arms race is theirs. At the moment we have the balance. The new rockets guarantee that the US will be destroyed, but it doesn't guarantee, that in case of first Russian strike the American wouldn't inflict the devastating losses. World peace has a chance. IMHO it is time to use it. I really doubt that further wasting of money for military projects of the west will secure their leading position (which is history IMHO) in the world. Growing instability of the western world multiplies the risks of starting a world war by a group which is incapable to estimate the risks for the humanity.
     
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    Denmark was a developed state with wonderful economy when Hitler came... If Russia had an alternative and disregarded it just because they are crazy and like new weaponry - you would have been right. But the situation is different. It was NATO approaching our borders, not our borders approaching NATO. :) It was Deparmtent of State trying to overthrow regimes in former soviet republics and Russia itself, not the other way round. These missiles are for our defense and they are useless for the offense. They won't protect Russia from a possible strike back from NATO.

    The day before yesterday I was really afraid of the war. My life was in hands of everyone involved into the project of NATO buildup around Russian borders and any guy who wins the election in the US (frankly speaking americans don't like or even trust these guys themselves). Today my life is in the hands of my state... So it's a good news for me.

    Compare the US debt figure, compare the spending of US for weaponry and the spending of rest of the world. Then you will see better what really IS insane.
     
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    What for? The peace is based only on understanding that we will destroy each other in case of war.
     

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