No Deep State? Really?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for re-enforcing my point. Serious threats to US security are being addressed by our government, and frivolous paranoid fancies are being largely ignored.

    They are not being allowed to distract from the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's vital mission.
     
  2. Stevew

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    If Mueller was honest about going "where the evidence takes him," then he SHOULD have begun his investigation with his buddy, Comey, after testifying his own wrong doing UNDER OATH to congress almost a year ago.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

    Steve
     
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    So you have no valid arguments at all. You post the same rhetoric daily. Somehow you feel qualified to dictate congressional priorities although you express the opinions of the minority. The majority graciously allows Mueller to continue his charade despite finding evidence of bias, misconduct, and obstruction. While you urge us to be patient and let Mueller stray wherever the evidence leads, you harp about duly elected officials pursuing topics you prefer aren't adrressed? Really the height of arrogant hypocrisy, IMO. Dismissed.
     
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    Clapper lies and gets away with it just as Bush 43 admitted he violated FISA. The rule of law in this country is dead and gone.
     
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    That's the problem isn't it? Two tiered justice system which protects the elites in office. Watch what happens to you if you got a contempt of congress.

    We even had Schumer tell america that our CIA can take down a sitting president, as he directed this remark at trump. No one cares!! If we had a free press they would have been all over it. In speaking truth to power. So we don't have a working free press. It is a part of the form of gov't we now have which is not a Repubic. Fact.
     
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    Oh... so now the "Deep State" is any directives issued by people that Trumpians don't like? Clapper is no longer Director of National Intelligence; Dan Coats, a Trump appointee, is. So if these EO's and directives were so "deep state" then why weren't they modified, a process that the "President" could've taken a couple days out of his busy golf schedule to sign?
     
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  7. PrincipleInvestment

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    Comey convinced Mueller to "let it go" ... "he's a good guy". Lying under oath is always overlooked right?
     
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  8. Stevew

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    Apparently whatever protects elites, dem politicians, and bureaucrats IS the priority.
    AKA, the "deep state."

    Steve
     
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    Actually the FISA law was renewed under the Trump Admin and EXPANDED
     
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    That was BEFORE ALL THIS CRAP came to light and is NOW STILL coming to light.

    Steve
     
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    The same one that the right-wingers here and everyone else complain about...
     
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    That was on January 18th. WELL after all this came to light.
     
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    There was talk about it in conservative news sources, but establishment and dems don't believe any of it until the lying liberal media has no choice but to follow up. Sessions FIRST announced the DoJ's IG would take up an investigation of FISA warrant ABUSE LAST WEEK.

    Steve
     
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    There's been no indication that FISA was abused, just some propagandic ramblings in a memo credited to a Trump lickspittle that was easily debunked.
     
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    So you would think that the Trump Admin would be rolling that back...but they're....not.

    Not even talking about it
     
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    Tell that to the DoJ's Inspector General who already has a full plate. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to avoid any more work than he has already. But keep in mind, the IG doesn't waste their time unless there IS EVIDENCE to begin with.

    Steve
     
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    There is no Deep State and the material you have posted does nothing to prove that there is. What your post does prove is that there are weak minded people who are easily confused and are likely to believe in conspiracy theories, who are paranoid and cannot think with clarity and objectivity. Who are mentally immature and undeveloped. Who do not have critical thinking skills.
     
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    If you had any critical thinking skills yourself, you wouldn't allow the lying liberal media to brainwash you.

    Steve
     
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    The deep state idea is one that has been proffered to the weak minded by extremist blowhards like Limbaugh and Jones and online sites that do not deal in reality. The very idea of some sort of deeply buried conspiracy against the people of the world is absurd. There are all kinds of reasons to understand that such a situation is not feasible, in both a general, logical way and in the specifics.
     
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    Let's try reality here. Democrats have been losing elections SINCE 2010 after first pushing Obamacare on the people. Dems didn't even flinch after losing the House. Dems didn't flinch AGAIN when they lost the Senate in 2014, nor AGAIN in 2016 after losing the White House. Dems are now at levels of power NOT SEEN SINCE 1929 and still aren't asking themselves why they are losing elections.

    The ONLY things dems have going for them are the lying liberal media AND government bureaucrats that are SUPPOSED to be non-political especially in law enforcement.

    Steve
     
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    Can't wait for his report.

    So what do you think is going to happen exactly? Just curious?
     
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    Rule of thumb...when someone says "deep state"...substitute "illuminati" or "Bilderbergers" and it will make as much sense
     
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    The DoJ's IG does have a report due out "in the spring." It is about the FBI's investigation of the Clinton email investigation. Hints have already been dropped about that report. Mueller reassigned and let go some of his people while the IG was investigating that since corrupt FBI people were involved with both the Clinton investigation and Mueller's team. It doesn't look good for dems. More to come.

    Steve
     
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    Wow, I didn't realize that everything is hunky-dory. I guess that now Congress will go beyond balancing the budget and create a budget surplus, too?
     
  25. PrincipleInvestment

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    Sure are hundreds of idle house democrats who could be doing ... well, anything. The GOP seems satified with budget, and are waiting to see how Trumps other policies play into that. Not that many congressmen are on committees whose focus is FBI / FISA. Apparently GOP priorities don't align with yours. So how's that DACA coming along?
     

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