Oregon: 20-Year-Old Sues Dick’s Sporting Goods for Refusing to Sell Rifle

No, both had religious liberties.......you have denied one of them that right.

 

Not entirely.

 

You mean like the Oregon baker was a private business and could do whatever he wanted....right?

I think I should stop suffering your foolishness before I really speak my mind. On ignore you go.

 

A friend of mine just filed the same case in MI.
His client videoptaped the denial.

 

You misinterpret my question.
Absent a right to purchase an abortion, would a state law banning the purchase of an abortion procedure violate the constitution?

 

Good example. They can have a dress code as well. What they cannot do is have a separate policy for those in a protected class. (Age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation)

 

Are his 18 year old buddies suing because they cannot buy a beer? Oh, wait, the State passed a law stating 18 year olds cannot buy a beer. So one State law violated another State law.

 

It is an actual, constitutional right that is being discussed this time around. That is the problem in this discussion.

 

21. And yes it is. Along with marijuana and something else. Guns and ammo are not, however.

Most car rental companies do rent to under 25. You will pay more, but then again, they also have rules and regs they have to follow and the law usually carves them out of the age thing too.

Also, renting a car is not a constitutional right.

 

There were many places to buy a cake too and yet Oregon ruled in favor of the complainants. Public accommodation laws. They have them and age is a protected class.

 

and so should have the gay couple wanting to buy a wedding cake from a Cristian baker against same sex marriage

 

because the federal drinking age is 21

only when they are doing so following state of federal law any other time it is age discrimination

 

does the same go to refusal of providing a service or product to a gay wedding?
and will add age is a federally protected class against discrimination sexual orientation isn't

 

What religious liberty is denied when a gay has to go to another baker to get his cake?

 

No

I accept your concession.

 

no constitutional right has been violated. The kid is still able to purchase, own and possess a long gun. Just not from Dick's

 

You can try and deflect to those scary gays all you want. The fact remains this case will go nowhere, as the kid has no standing.

 

Did you hear about the Obama administration suing a company who prohibited their employees from wearing dreadlocks, alleging it was discrimination against blacks?

 

Well ... at the age of 20, the peson is not allowed to go to the bar and drink / buy liquor according to the law if under Age 21 ... why then allowed to buy a potentially deadly firearm?

Somehow ridiculous, if an 18-year-old person in the US can lawfully legally buy a gun, go to the military and fight in wars with all sorts of weapons, kill enemies or even be wounded or killed in a bad case. but you can not legally buy and drink a bottle of whiskey, eh?

 

The debate/argument was: when does the bakers religious liberty override that of the person asking for the cake. Agree or not, the customer has the same rights, and they cannot be denied.

 

Here you set up a flamebaiting strawman. Try to do better.

As a legal matter, he might have a case. While he isn't in a protected class -- age is a protected class for employment law, not retailer decisions -- Oregon specifically bans retail discrimination based on age, and actually specifically mentions 18-20-year-olds.

So assuming he wins, look for three possible responses:

1. Dick's caves and resumes selling firearms to people under 21;
2. Dick's carves out a more specific exemption, for instance, refusing to sell any handguns or semi-auto weapons of any type.
3. The state legislature gets involved, and passes a law restricting gun sales to people under 21.

 

ok I will ask you this
can a store then prohibit the sale of guns to a black person using the reasoning that blacks commit over 50% of violent crimes
if you are allowed to discriminate against age in the sale of guns then you are allowed to then discriminate against race also
both are protected classes

 

LOL because age discrimination in Oregon is not situational, depending on where or why one was denied service. Age based discrimination is illegal...period!

But Jim Hargreaves, a retired Lane County judge, points out the state law that protects people from being discriminated against based on race, gender and religion. It also protects people from discrimination based on age—as long as a person is a legal adult, they can't be barred from anything that's available to the public.


And because Oregon law says that any person over 18 can buy a firearm, the stores that refuse to sell guns to 18, 19 and 20-year-olds could face legal challenges.


"They can't set their own age limit because the statute has already done that," Hargreaves says. "They don't have any authority because the statute specifically says you can't as a merchant discriminate against either young people or old people. If you're selling something you have to sell it to anyone who is entitled to buy it by law."
http://www.wweek.com/news/business/...may-violate-oregons-anti-discrimination-laws/

 

also a deflection. This has nothing to do with race. Dick's does not sell to ANYONE under 21. If they only sold to SOME people under 21, then he would have standing. In this case, he does not.

 

Er ... isn't that what I said?