Does the First Amendment prohibit the President from criticizing Media?

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    President Trump's criticism of EAP (abbreviation Mainstream Media) was taken as an attack on the First Amendment.
     
  2. GrayMan

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    Criticism is the use of the 1st amendment. ANTIFA is an example of stifling free speech.
     
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    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Why do many people consider President's criticism of the EAP to be attack on Freedom?
     
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    1A recognizes and endeavors to protect every American's right to criticize anything they please.
     
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    The MSM is not perfect and when appropriate should be criticized often and severely.
     
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    Anybody can say anything about a MSM outlet, either griticism or paean, you just can't throw a Molotov through the front door and start murdering journo's.
     
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    The Constitution limits government actions, not people speaking their minds. So, no to all of the above. Trump and AntiFa can say all the stupid crap they want as long as no laws are passed suppressing others from calling them idiots.
     
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  8. CCitizen

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    Sadly AntiFa do more then just speech.
     
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    Such as other protesters, rioters, etc? If they did anything illegal, arrest them. If all they did was disagree, then it's free speech.

    Are you trying to say they should be banned and never allowed to voice their opinion using the full force of the Federal government?
     
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    The MSM views themselves as symbolic of free speech much like the flag is symbolic of the USA. To attack them is to attack free speech in much the same way as burning a flag is attacking the USA or vets.

    They are arrogant in this belief though. They are not the symbol of free speech. They are not the flag. They are caretakers of it and they are doing a piss poor job of it.
     
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    I meant if the government used such tactics to silence people.
     
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    Technically the Constitution increases the governments actions.

    Remember that they had none of this power before the Constitution, the States had it all.
     
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    A matter of perspective. It's a collective empowerment of government to certain functions. Are you saying one of those functions is to give rights to citizens or not?
     
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    They shouldn't do that, of course.
     
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    It doesn't violate any rights, but it is an attack on them. Incredibly un-American, and Trump isn't the only one. Just one of the loudest attackers.
     
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    Isn't he exercising his right to free speech by commenting on how they use theirs?
     
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    The President has First Amendment rights to criticize the EAP.
     
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    No one is denying that. But his attacks on the 1st Amendment are incredibly un-American.
     
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    The 1st amendment doesnt prohibit anyone from criticizing anything. It PROTECTS everyones RIGHT to criticize EVERYTHING. Thats its entire purpose.
     
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    Actually, the constitution was written because the articles of federation were deemed insufficient to bring the individual states together to fight another war. In other words, the federal government was given the power to protect our borders. What happens inside the borders was generally considered the purview of the various states. There were certain things, like the ability to keep certain states from doing things like getting in the way of free trade, hence the interstate commerce clause, but if you actually read the constitution, you'll see that the federal government has no constitutional authority to do anything within states.

    fSo yes, it increases the federal governments ability to respond to threats from outside, but almost none from within.
     
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    For calling out untruthful reporting, hard left bias in the media, constant media attacks and dishonesty? Seems like people who don't realize it's happening might need to know so they too can watch for future similar events. The Trump early warning system :)
     
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    Criticizing fake news, and calling out propaganda is not in-American.

    The actions of anyone to silence another is most certainly un-American, and the left needs to look in the mirror. How many times have protestors on the left violated the rights of citizens to give speeches?

    Probably want to think a little more carefully before lobbing those "un-American" accusations.
     
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    The President speaks with the power of the Federal government...so...yea
     
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    Calling the media "fake news" IS propaganda.
    Almost never, but certainly less than the "right". Remember the ramp up to the Iraq War and the Dixie Chicks?
     
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    LOL

    Calling fake news, fake, is not propaganda. You should acquaint yourself with the concept of truth. So called "journalists" have been fired for their actions.

    But really, "almost never"? You're joking, right? How many speakers have been run off by liberal protesters?

    What's going on at college campuses across the nation?

    If you want to be taken seriously, you need to avoid making statements that prove otherwise.
     

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