Mass Shootings-Why Do We Insist On Thinking Anything Can Be Done?

Now that's a good answer. LOL

 

Please ask Bowerbird to explain to you how this is a post hoc fallacy.

Then, explain to us why you don't -really- care about kids getting gunned down.

 

What are the gun control laws like to California?
What are they like in Vermont?

 

ok if you say so

 

I have no clue at all what you mean by this....and I do statistical methods for a living

 

I'm only giving you some irrefutable facts. BTW, those numbers relate directly to the Second Amendment.

 

A weak inevitability argument. Bad things happen so let's not try to prevent bad things from happening. Car accidents happen everyday so let's not try to prevent car accidents. Illegal immigration happens so let's not try to prevent illegal immigration. You have a bias towards inaction.

 

Inaction in my view is better than simply action for the sake of action.

 

I have provided a plan that will address the issue. No, you cannot stop mass shootings, but you can do things, other than what you mentioned and other than gun control.

 

Was one of those putting armed personnel in schools? Because I think that is a horrendous idea that will do more harm than good.

 

No need to put armed personnel in school. I believe in preventative measures.

 

Law enforcement in the United States has always been reactive in concept and execution.

 

We, the people, can all support an idea to change the way government addresses this issue. They will not do it on their own.

For years, the government has played a silly game with the American people. It's well known, but it's like people that watch WWE wrestling, knowing the whole thing is rigged. It's called Hegelian Dialectics. Here is how it works:

Thesis + Anti-Thesis = Synthesis. OR, in simple English: Problem + Action = Solution.

When George Bush wanted to justify banning the importation of AK style rifles, he began wailing about them and even got Charlatan Heston of the NRA to back him. Miraculously a whole spate of crimes happened with the bad guys using an AK. Then, as soon as the importation ban was signed, the criminals quit using the AK. Why?

There are still AKs. But, all of a sudden, the arch enemy of the American people is the AR 15. How many times does the government have to play this game before the American people catch on? At least 98 percent of your mass shooters all have one thing in common: they are on SSRIs ( a schedule of drugs used for the treatment of anxiety and depression.) Those psychotropic drugs have KNOWN side effects, mainly thoughts of suicide and homicide.

Younger people are being prescribed psychotropic drugs as if they were candy. And now, even mental health professionals are realizing that we should not be using them as the first treatment option, but rather as the last one. Check this link out:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/06/prescribing.aspx

We do not take the advice of these professionals, especially when they are telling us:

"Today, patients often receive psychotropic medications without being evaluated by a mental health professional, according to a study last year by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Many Americans visit their primary-care physicians and may walk away with a prescription for an antidepressant or other drugs without being aware of other evidence-based treatments — such as cognitive behavioral therapy — that might work better for them without the risk of side effects." (excerpt from the above link)

On several threads, I have made suggestions as to how we identify and treat those people who can be helped without the drugs. And, if we keep up with those who are genuinely in need of psychotropic drugs (or we know they pose a threat to themselves or others, we can do more to regulate and supervise their lives - even institutionalize the small number of those that cannot be supervised or regulated better.

 

No, but being detached from reality because of incessant propaganda IS an American value, it is the state of affairs in this country.

 

When. Post a link

 

No link needed. That is the number of British civilians killed on British soil versus the number of Americans killed on U.S. soil during that same time period. And, adding insult to injury our fatalities were not on the mainland, but way out in Hawaii. It was during a war you might have read about called WWII.

It wasn't like the nazis couldn't reach us. They were detected just miles off the coast near South Carolina.

 

My response was not directed at you.

 

That is just being STUPIDLY difficult. Like @Golem said, it is actually possible to link to posts. Do you not know how to do that? Anyway, I'm surprised that Golem continued to converse with you after that nonsense.

 

I've not actually hit anyone with this question yet. You're the lucky first!
When it comes to the safety of schools, what do you think is more important? Gun control, or school security?

 

So to get some parity you had to include war casualties!!!

 

Oh please elaborate!!!

 

It is actually an Ad Hom

 

Why?

Because some of us can reason.

 

Actually no, I don't. And beware. Calling people stupid can get you banned on this board. Just a word to those who think they are wise.

I spent over twenty years typing briefs, complaints, etc. on an electric typewriter. And when I asked here how to do multi quotes, I was given a one sentence explanation on how to do it. That didn't help. As for being able to get you to the exact posting on a thread, it's pretty damn lazy to get you on a page and you can't scroll through until you see my posts.

Golem is under no obligation to converse with me. So, some people are better on computers than me. I'm better at research and understanding legal subject matter.

 

Why do you think the founders agreed to guarantee the Right of the people? And since the ratification of the Constitution, how many countries have tried to invade the U.S.? Didn't it strike you as odd that Germany attacked the Brits and even when we spotted nazis off the coast of South Carolina they never hit the mainland though they could make it here Accident?

Let's cut the crap. It's getting old. When ideas are presented to reduce gun violence, the left rejects those ideas. You really don't care about how many people die in the streets so long as the deaths give you a pretext for enacting gun control and ignoring the root cause. Then you have your board troll with that standard line of saying things about me that don't square with the facts.

Attorneys for the victims of Cruz's rampage cite some of the same things I've written about. The public defender acknowledged what I'm saying:

"Howard Finkelstein, the Broward County public defender representing Cruz, has decried the shooting as avoidable, emphasizing all of the red flags that were missed in his client’s life - including at school, in the mental health system and with the FBI, which failed to investigate a tip last month that Cruz seemed capable of violence and might shoot up a school.

"What we have gathered so far looks to us like this is a complete multi-system failure, that you had the school system failed . . . you had the mental health system failed," Finkelstein said. "When he went to purchase a gun, that system failed. . . . The FBI failed. When you look at it, this should never have happened."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...ol-and-the-system-tried-to-help-him_165636616

Magazines like Psychology Today agree that what I'm saying should be added to this conversation:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/saving-normal/201303/prison-or-treatment-the-mentally-ill

But, you and your ilk are going to drown this out in a sea of irrelevant B.S. because you don't care about human lives.... all you care about is weakening this country and pushing gun control.