Echoing Russian propaganda, Pink Floyd's co-founder Roger Waters says Syria's White Helmets are 'fak

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    Another brick fell in the wall.

    Echoing Russian propaganda, Pink Floyd's co-founder Roger Waters says Syria's White Helmets are 'fake organisation'

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    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/b...-founder-roger-waters-says-white-helmets-fake



    By the way. Russia can supply S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria. This was stated by the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of Russia, Sergei Rudskoy. He recalled that "a few years ago, given the urgent request of some of our Western partners, we refused to supply Syria with the S-300 SAM. Taking into account what happened, we consider it possible to return to consideration of this issue ".
    For example, it's no secret to anyone that not so long ago Moscow fulfilled the contract for the supply of S-300 air defense systems to Iran. This contract, apart from the sale of the complexes, included the supply of missiles, simulators, a contract for maintenance of equipment, training of personnel and training of Iranian air defense officers.
    So, maybe the Iranian officers, who already know how to deal with the Russian S-300, can teach their Syrian colleagues directly on the spot directly protecting the sky of Damascus? Why not? How do you like this regular "asymmetric answer"?




     
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    who gives a **** about russia? we shouldn't bomb syria because the us bombing the middle east has happened dozens of times in the past century and all of them were objectively horrible ideas
     
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    yeah and that Reagan adventure [​IMG] turned out real grand for the us marines in Lebanon:eek:
    USS New Jersey 1984 [​IMG]
     
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    Some of the real journalism that has gone on in syria has evidenced these white helmets cannot be trusted for honesty. They might very well be a part of the war effort against assad, by the use of propaganda, which is always used in modern warfare, since ww2. In fact, some journalists have voiced just that.

    The reporting of Hersh, winner of a pulitzer prize at one time, is habitually blacked out in MSM, as most contrary voices are, which question the official story. When RT America one of their american hosted programs by people like Ed Schultz, allows these people to report and talk, it is met with cries of russian propaganda, from the propagandists here in america. It seems that to indulge in journalistic standards, and report more than the official story, is russian propaganda! For you should only get one side, the official side, for it is always the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so says our CIA and politicians! Clever, but it only works on village idiots.

    And it is amazing that in MSM, that Tucker Carlson is still on the air. He would not be on the air if in the fake liberal rest of MSM, like MSNBC, and CNN. So why does FOX allow him to be on, his own program, as he does journalism and actually questions the exhortations and accusations without evidence being hurled about, meeting the definition of propaganda in its most obvious and overt form? You should see many more Carlsons, but he is an anomaly in today's MSM. Or at least the little that I have seen of him on you tube videos. No doubt though that he is indeed the exception rather than the rule in today's MSM.
     
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    I was Pink Floyd fan since I was a kid. Maybe not everything is lost with the West, because there are still people with a conscience ready to come out with a point of view different from the mainstream.
     
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    oh come on, the guy's been on drugs for years... can we please stop listening to musicians, movie stars and reality show celebri... oh wait... Trump
     
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    So, just because an old junkie said then it’s true, right?
    Well, I’m sure Trump snorted some blow in his life and he says Assad is an animal and Putin is a schmuck. And Russia is a third world country!
    That must be true!
     
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    Waters has been politically minded for years. Ever listen to Pink Floyd's 'Animals'?
     
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    No Trump and I are still working through the brick and the waaallll thing, I thought about smoking something to see if it helps, but have so much fun when I have all my wits about me I just can't be bothered
     
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    If you recall the recent past by historical standards, crazy in the White House and the Pentagon killed 3 million Vietnamese. They poisoned Vietnamese with chemical weapons, spraying it from aircraft. But now they are concerned about fake poisoning in Salisbury and fake chemical attacks in Syria

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    OAN Investigation Finds No Evidence of Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ce-of-chemical-weapon-attack-in-syria.530768/

    Or do you think that this journalist is also an addict? It's so easy to blame those who express an opinion different from yours in using drugs. Is not it?
     
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    Great musicians. I like "Dark side of the moon" 1973. All albums Pink Floyd are great albums.

    Enjoy.



    Pink Floyd - " Money " Roger Waters / David Gilmour

     
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    Roger Waters is correct, of course. The so-called "white helmets" are nothing more than Al Qaeda's PR machine.
     
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    did you just link to yourself? I've heard people under the influence of drugs are known to link to themselves
     
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    I was 10, when my sister gave me the first tapes, prodigy and Pink Floyd. Both not suited for children. she was 18..

    Musicians have political opinions like all people. And I dont trust white helmets neither, their links with MI6 were online, and the people there are dubious
     
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    If Russian propaganda said you shouldn't run off a cliff, would you jump to your death to spite them?

    Waters' claims should be assessed based on their merit.

    PS: Roger Waters is a ****.
     
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    Tucker Carlson must have an iron clad contract - and undoubtedly a lot of viewers and support. But he does have to be careful not to be compromised in a blackmail scam. Then again there are always car and plane accidents, as well polonium - which seems to be the means of choice of the one world order freaks, that way they can blame Russia.
     
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    Ignorant people do not realize that anytime a war is going on that propaganda, lies, is part and parcel of modern warfare, thanks to the nazis who incorporated it in their war of conquest and hegemony.

    Now, the only thing that a concerned, serious intellect can do, given this fact, is to really use the brain in an attempt to arrive at the facts of what is really happening in such a war. But to simply accept anything any gov't would say, without evidence, is the height of idiocy. It is what the local village idiot would do, but not people of intelligence.

    These groups like the white helmets are not there to give you accurate information, but as propaganda agents, as noted by several journalists, not belonging to MSM. Generally independent journalists, for getting the facts from MSM is just not how they operate in these times.

    And so, trying to understand what is reality during a war, requires a vigilant, honest, rational, logical intellect in order to sift through the BS and propaganda, and if you cannot muster one, another fool is created. And you become just a tool of those that have no qualms about lying to the american people, and you enable and aid them and whatever agenda they are promoting.

    I would submit that anytime your own gov't will make claims, insisting you believe them while refusing to supply credible evidence, you are being lied to, intentionally, and this should tell you how unimportant your own gov't sees you, and how they will continue to lie to you in the interests of someone other than yourself. No one should ever have to state this fact, and yet it is becoming more and more needed, given the world of lies and disinfo that we find ourselves living in.

    Of course it is also a possibility that so many of us could not care less about the truth, about facts, and I tend to believe this to be the case. I am sure there is an ancient archetype for this.
     
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    From what I gathered, the White Helmets are members of ISIS and Al Queda, and were created as a propaganda gimick by MI6 - as was the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. While the Syrian Observatory is supported by the British government, it appears the White Helmets is supported by Saudi Arabia and they have been caught assisting in beheadings - like the one against the 12 year old boy.

    Whenever Washington receives information about anything in Syria, it can only come from two sources. It's either by agents embedded and working with the terrorists, or it comes from the White Helmets - who are known for their film making. My government is not stupid, psychopaths yes, but not stupid. They know exactly how credible the White Helmets are.


    Here is someone a little bit more trustworthy:

    Father Elia Karakach, Superior of the Franciscan Convent of Damascus:

    That ploy of chemical weapons is a lie, it is once again American politics playing the game of power; it is a scenario already seen with Saddam Hussein, and if that is remembered, you see the consequences!

    Trump, like those who preceded him, uses the lie of chemical weapons to justify his attack on Syria, which aims to take control of the Syrian territory so as to become the hub of oil trafficking. This is Trump’s project, a pure project of power, supported by France and England and by the silence of the International Community.


     
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    You "gather" your "information" from nothing but propaganda outlets and fake news.
     
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    How would you know?
     
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    Duhh, they defended their freedom at home with that chemical weapons. How dare you question that.
     

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