YOUNG, DUMB AND ARMED How Melbourne became a gun city

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  1. DoctorWho

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    You obviously are taking other peoples word since you do not live in either affected Country.
     
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    Love how your attack is effectively "you're wrong because you refer to published research". Happy of course to consider any research that rejects the link.
     
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    How about actual testimony of parties involved in both Countries ?
     
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    Objective research capable of testing hypothesis is good practice. You prefer tabloidism.

    Notice that I've given three sources now. You've just given whinge
     
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    No, you relish verbosity my loquacious freind, you refuse respectful honest debate on those points.
     
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    And you will just try to find new ways to evidence dodge...
     
  7. DoctorWho

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    That is an out and out lie.

    I have actual expertise on the topic, you do not.
    Your dodge is to refuse honest debate by stating your points of view and proving them of which you have not done.
     
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    Even now you're trying to justify evidence dodge...
     
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    No, the true Dodge is you avoiding the question.
     
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    No, the answer is to admit the road AUS went down is the wrong road, and to change course. That's what the data shows. But the data and reality are not politically correct, so AUS will go even further down the wrong road and make their citizens pay in increased assaults, rapes, robberies, and violence in general.
     
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    Yet they live in constant denial of the facts, claiming nobody needs guns, you can throw crockery,
    Use broom handles, a stern look, but never, ever, rely on a gun !
     
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    Your post didn't have a question. That's a new dodge mind you!
     
  13. DoctorWho

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    You refuse to answer the questions posed, simple ones.
    Because your false premise is thoroughly cooked.
    You deny a small concealed revolver is an efficient means of personal defense.
     
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    You have a habit of ignoring reality. You're whinging about answering questions when you haven't made any. That isn't consistent with honest comment!

    And handguns? If there was efficiency, you'd be able to reject the victimisation research plus also show significant reductions in crime through gun prevalence. Here is a question, so you get the idea. Can you refer to evidence that achieves that?
     
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    What are the demographics on this Melbourne situation?

    Are they white? Asian? Middle Eastern? Islander? Indian? African? Swedish?
     
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    [​IMG]
    CHR UNDCVR 38 2 HIPOL FXD 5
    Model

    73829 Condition
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    CHARTER ARMS
    Description:
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    Brand: Charter Arms
    Model: Undercover
    Type: Revolver: Double Action
    Caliber: 38SP
    Finish: Stainless Steel,

    This is the evidence that refutes all your claim.
     
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    That would hardly matter.
     
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    Other Countries just do not have the same problems endemic to the U.S.
     
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    That is rjght but only a fraction of those are finding thier way to the black market. Our problem is ********s in the USA who are straw purchasing guns to sell overseas
     
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    It matters very much. If we know this, then we know what the 'cultural' drivers are.
     
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    Wrong.

    https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/fil...icit_firearms_in_australia_0.pdf?v=1477016769

    Of all firearms traced by the FTP in 2015–16, only 1 per cent were identified as illegally imported.

    Most of your firearm crime is committed by criminals who never turned their guns in, just like we told you would happen.
     
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    Mexico may have laws but not true gun control
     
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    Then why is everyone claiming that gun control is not working here where even at our worst we have only a fifth the homocide rate of the USA
     
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    And what are they ?
     
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