Arm the teachers...seriously?

You won't do it because you know there is no legal requirement for the police to protect you, of course.

Then you'll follow that with some other nonsense about "job description".

Meanwhile, what I have are numerous court cases where people were murdered or attacked and the police just stood there. What happened to them? Nothing.

If you want to hope that the police put more value on your life than their own, go right ahead.

 

And what better place to commit suicide by cop than your own back yard, right?

The absence of an acknowledgement of your mistake indicates that you are not to be taken seriously.

 

Just as there is no legal requirement for the teachers to protect the children and other staffers too.

Most certainly about the same level as the teachers do was well.

 

Sure. The teachers that would like to run away and leave the children or refuse to defend them are welcome to make their own personal choices.

Except that we know there are numerous cases where teachers have tried to stop attackers despite the fact they had no hope of success.

 

How is the location relevant?

 

No you didn't! Pay attention!

My question was why you kept implying that I need to have technical knowledge about guns to effectively discuss how a person would act. You said you could "easily" explain that, and then didn't You went straight into your opinion of how they would react.

You said:

"Easily. You said that if she had a gun she was more likely to kill an innocent person than the attacker.

That is demonstrably false, because we know people who deploy firearms in self defense scenarios almost never hit anyone other than their intended target.

In fact, they're less likely to hit an innocent than the police."
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Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong about who she would be more likely to kill (which is a separate discussion); my question was why you kept implying that I had no authority to even discuss it because I didn't have technical knowledge about guns.

I can't dumb it down any more for you.... So at this point I can only conclude that either you are acting obtuse, or that you are.... sss-something I can't say because my post would be deleted by mods...

 

I don't think I said you didn't have the "authority" to speak on anything. I just said you didn't know what you're talking about, and you don't.

We have decades of data on people who carry firearms, and they're not doing any of the things dancing around in your imagination.

 

It's quite understandable; the teachers are hired to teach, not act as security for children; that's the job of law enforcement and trained security. The great thing about this country is that you have choice.

Just like there are numerous cases of police trying to stop attackers and gunmen. It's all elementary.

 

The poster I responded to defined them as "KTW rounds". Ronald Reagan defined them as "...certain forms of ammunition have no legitimate sporting, recreational, or self-defense use and thus should be prohibited"

My own definition of "cop-killer bullet" would be: whatever we decide to categorize as "cop-killer bullets". Whoever redacts the bill will expressly list them as any reasonable person sees fit. Just like we did with "assault weapons". The 1986 bill that Reagan advocated for and signed defined them as "armor-piercing bullets" which seems like a good starting point, but may not be complete.

 

No, I'm sorry. My thought processes don't understand that way of thinking.

I guess that means that parents aren't security for children either. They should call the cops and hope they get there in time to save them.

Hate to break it to you, but it's not anyone elses job to keep you safe, other than yours.

You can of course have that expectation, it's just that you're probably going to end up dead if it ever happens to you.

Well, not Broward county cops.

Yeah eventually they'll go in. Once all the cops go over their plan a few hundred times, everyone's in position, and a few hours have passed anyway.

 

LoL your definition is however you feel about it today.

Oh man. Thanks. That went better than I'd hoped.

 

As I have shown so many times on this forum, Ronald Reagan, the U.S. Congress, and the whole of humanity that is not a complete blind gun-nut who drinks the NRA kool-aid... they all beg to differ.

 

Except you're wrong despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's called a delusion. Yet, I an buy M855/SS109 and M318 cartridges that will penetrate all body armor up to Class 3A on the internet.

 

Just like there is no legal requirements for technicians to fix omputers, or for mechanics to fix cars, or for teachers to teach,...

Bottom line... who cares? They are required to do it anyway. Because it's their job.

No. I'll follow that with a rational argument about "job description" which you won't get because "getting it" is not in your blood or among your most notable intellectual abilities.

Actually, you can leave my response at "who cares?" because you are having a discussion with yourself. Not with me. Except you have no point....

 

It's not. Anywhere you make a mistake you need to acknowledge it. It's the proper thing to do.

 

Imagine your surprise when they don't.

Oh I have a point.

The police aren't required to protect you, and if they stand there while someone murders you, they won't be charged.

 

I see.... so your excuse is that you didn't use the word "authority". Lame excuse...

 

Oh... I'm so happy for you! Unless what you "hoped" was to make any sense. In which case... I hate to break it to you kid, but...

No... let's keep it positive. I'm sure by now you have learned to set the bar for yourself low enough so that your "hopes" don't disappoint you....

 

Here is a sample of my "delusion"

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=37785

 

One lesson in logic. If your point and the argument you use to support it are the same thing, that is neither a point nor an argument. It's called a "tautology".

The good news is that one of us learned something today. The bad one is that it wasn't me.

 

And your delusion continues. Commercial SS109 and M318 is available via numerous sources and will easily penetrate police vests. So will the vast majority of center rifle ammo. It's called reality.

 

It's apparent you didn't even read the post but instead chose to give a knee-jerk reaction based on your response to my post. You do your thing and I'll do mine and we'll both be happy.

 

Huh? You're not following the discussion, are you? I'll summarize: A couple of Kool-Aid fans (NRA flavor) said that they didn't exist.

So you prove them wrong. Obviously if, as you say, they're "available", that means they exist.

 

You don't even have the basic knowledge to follow the conversation. It shows.

 

Yeah.... especially because I started it. The part you jumped into, I mean....

You did make a fool of yourself, but at least you helped me make my point... So there is that in your favor.