Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

We keep learning what a total FAILURE Jim Comey was as Director of the F.B.I., don't we? I have yet to hear anyone ever explain anything he ever got done or did right. It was HIS job to stop Russian interference within the USA itself, wasn't it? Too busy playing politics.

 

LOL! Once again a Democrat raging against even the very concept of expecting evidence to support accusations.

 

I dont know and dont care

Maybe he stuffs the ballot box or maybe the russian people are a evil as he is

Who knows?

 

You waited almost 10 months for that reply? Come on man. This thread is old enough that if someone were going to report on why it was wrong, it would happened. I have yet to see any one do so in this thread or anywhere else.

The simple fact is that you are not entitled to read highly classified reports until they have been the source of a journalistic report or declassified

 

I didn't say anything about being the source of the conspiracy. I asked if they championed the claim. The notion that Ted Cruz's father was linked to the assassination of JFK did not start with Trump either, but he sure as hell lent his substantial voice and media exposure to that issue.

That's the central point here - Donald Trump was the first major candidate to endorse, encourage, and exacerbate a whole host of conspiracy theories that would have been summarily dismissed by previous major political figures. Previous major presidential candidates would have dismissed their political surrogates for endorsing the **** that Trump championed himself.

 

Arguing with the Sheep is like teaching calculus to a pig. Except instead of frustrating the pig the Sheep will only bleat.

 

Setting aside that your "whataboutisms" here are absolutely false bullshit, I again want you to pay attention and learn the very simple distinction that I am making. Trump - himself - was more than willing to encourage, exacerbate, and elaborate on a whole host of fake news, conspiracy bullshit. From the birther movement, to ted cruz's father, to the CIA as a new Nazi germany - Trump provided a platform and legitimacy to a whole host of Russian back misinformation. And he was the first major political candidate to do so.

Previous major political candidates would dismiss their surrogates for openly advocating for these false notions. Trump demanded that his surrogates defend him when he spouted off those bullshit claims, which only encouraged his surrogates and especially his Trumpettes to push the issues farther.

The Russian meddling in the 2016 was not the most important factor in the outcome of the election. It was; however, a significant factor. And because it was a significant factor orchestrated by an adversarial foreign government through illegal acts designed to disrupt the US election, to sow doubt and chaos in the US populace for its own government and institutions, and to promote Donald Trump, it is a factor that deserves the attention it has received and the continued vigilance and efforts necessary to limit or prevent its occurrence in the future.

 

Not according to the intelligence community. They flat out said that Russian meddling did NOT influence the outcome of the election. Not only was it not significant but it DID NOT INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME. By all means run the Russkies spies out of the country but to pretend that Hillary lost due to Putin and ignore the massive number of mistakes that her campaign and the DNC and for that matter the RNC made is ridiculous.

I am not going to defend Trump's behavior but you pretend that he is the first candidate to repeat lies and falsities and that is just an absurd claim.

 

Yeah he said it once after Cruz Trashed him.

 

He never brought it up during the campaign unless specifically asked.

 

Funny Trump never mentioned it. The notion that Alex Jones is either a liberal or a conservative or a Republican or a Democrat is just ludicrous. Hell I'm not even sure he believes half the crap he puts out. What he does is occupy a radio Niche pioneered by the late Art Bell. AJ has determined that even bat **** crazy people have money and that he is more than willing to give them air time for some of that money. Also funny I never heard of Pizzagate till the dude shot up the restaurant.

 

What you heard or didn't hear is not the issue.

 

Well the point would be that apparently all these Russians and what have you weren't very good at getting the word Out.

 

Putin?

Are you serious?

Saddam Hussein "kept getting re-elected" too...

 

Because you claim not to have heard about it???

PFFFFFtttttttt

 

But Don does.



https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-thanked-alex-jones-231329

 

Yet again, you spout factually false bullshit. Pence made this claim in February, but the only actual position statement from the US intelligence committee came from the report issued in January of 2017 which said,

"We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russia activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election," an unclassified assessment released last January states. "The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion."

Considering that makes two posts in a row where you echoed Russian backed misinformation, when should I expect you to leave?

You are actively defending Trumps behavior by pretending that there is a historical precedent for his behavior.

 

Here's a pro-tip. If you want to convince someone to change their mind, attack their strongest point. Not the weakest.

And when you do that, don't expect to think that claiming Trump only endorsed a blatantly false conspiracy theory once or that he only endorsed the blatantly false conspiracy theory in response to being asked about his belief to suffice as a strong point.

 

No because almost nobody not heavily invested in conspiracy radio ever heard of it. Which leaves out the overwhelming majority of Trump voters that I know. By way of comparison almost everyone I knew had heard of the Truther movement and there birther movement with in days of their start.

 

But not Don.

 

Since your giving advice in the future do try to make sense.

 

Since your giving advice in the future do try to make sense.oops pardon the double. Phone weirding out on me

 

please when did Don talk about Pizzagate?

 

And yet you still cling to the idea that Putin but Trump into power instead of Hillary. Hillary lost because of the reasons I outlined earlier and not because of Facebook posts. Russian meddling was NOT a significant factor and no one has said so. The CIA never claimed that it affected the election they said they never investigated that aspect only whether or not the Russians engaged in tampering.

 

So then you were wrong when you claimed that they said it had no affect. Got it.

And Hillary lost because of ~80,000 votes across three States. So it is entirely possible that Russian meddling cost her the election especially when you factor in that one of points from your list - the democratic party rigging the election for Hillary - was a Russian talking point that was based almost exclusively on the internal emails that were, you guessed it, illegally obtained and disseminated by Russia.