WHITE GUN OWNERS, THE LEFT HATES YOU-Law-Abiding, White Gun Owners Are The New Nazis

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  1. altmiddle

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    Please show me where I have mentioned the countries you listed.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are welcome.
    I didn't.
    I know.
    The word "hate" is not in my vocabulary.

    The second amendment is just what it says ... an "amendment". I will not insult you by explaining the definition of an amendment because I assume you know already. So, with that knowledge ..... you realize that anything that is no longer "a good idea" can be amended.

    As far as US foreign policies go .... oh yeah! It stinks. World democracy has suffered and been destroyed by it.
     
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    read my post again where I said "they" meaning others

    now you go ahead and tell them to refrain from commenting like you did on this thread
    to Thingamabob
     
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    Thank you. You said what I wanted to say much better than I because I couldn't say it without a sharp blade.
     
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    You have heard of "Democracy", yes?
     
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    World democracy? What are you talking about? Like N. Korea? Vietnam? Those fine examples of democracy? Iraq? Syria?
     
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    Like N. Korea? No, although the jury is still deliberating about the American role in sabotaging a unification of the two Korean nations. So yeah, maybe.
    Vietnam, Iraq, Syria? Most definitely, yes.
    But there are many others: Cuba, Iran, Chile, Venezuela, Grenada, ... oh hell, let's just name the whole of Latin America and eliminate whatever ones do not apply.
     
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    Yes, but that chart is meaningless without knowing what factors they took into consideration. I look at personal liberties and freedoms, and how much control the government has over such things. I am a more of a libertarian, not a "right winger" like Mr. truth pointed out. And I'm sure I don't have to explain what that is to you.
     
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    So you are saying that those countries would have been perfect examples of democracy and human rights...
    Right...
     
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    Then the column labelled "Civil Liberties" ought to offer some insight. All you have to do is read it. And if you are still in doubt you can look deeper into what Democratic Index is all about. Or if that is too heavy you can simply note the "Ranking" (first column) of the nations that interest you most to very easily understand that your insinuation that my input (as a Swedish citizen) is irrelevant to your so-called "freedom" ....... is pure sour grapes.
     
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    So what does "they" have to do with me? The PC left does not like it when you stereotype.
     
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    I think I already covered this extreme, absurd smoke screen rubbish when I commented on "stopping gun violence".

    The US has thwarted or destroyed democracy in each and every country I named. Whether or not they all would have become "perfect examples of democracy and human rights" we will never know. After all, the US destroyed their Democratic advances. Start with "Operation TP Ajax".
     
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    If we all agreed what made a better democracy, we wouldn't have a need for politics now would we.
    What you may gauge as relevant in a socialistic country, I may consider oppressive in a system that leans more towards capitalism and individual freedom.

    There is no magic formula or set of variables to crate a "Democratic index."
     
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    You do realize the historical difference between the first 10 Amendments aka the Bill of Rights and the rest of the amendments, correct? Also, find a recent red/blue map of the US. Start counting red states. Stop when you get to 13.

    As Western Europe isn't occupied by the Third Reich or the USSR, and the countries in Asia-Pac still speak something other than Japanese, there are elements of the US foreign policy that has protected world democracy.
     
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    Now you are just being argumentative. Communism, terrorism, monarchies, and dictatorships, will never become democracies without revolution. I thought you understood American history...
     
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    I had offer to go shooting in the south florida area with these right wingers or anyone else for that matter more then once.

    Still waiting for some of the guns lovers to take me up including an offer to paid for range time.
     
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    How Russia used social media to divide Americans
    Russian trolls and bots focused on controversial topics in an effort to stoke political division on an enormous scale – and it hasn’t stopped, experts say. ... What has now been made clear is that Russian trolls and automated bots not only promoted explicitly pro-Donald Trump messaging, but also used social media to sow social divisions in America by stoking disagreement and division around a plethora of controversial topics such as immigration and Islamophobia. ...


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/14/russia-us-politics-social-media-facebook
     
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    If you ever get to Northern Colorado, ping me. I have access to standard pistol and rifle ranges, long distance ranges, tactical bays and sporting clays. We'll make a day of it.
     
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    So you mean taking the time to listen and observe American politics and its politicians can cause the American citizen to question the validity and honesty of their own leaders? Wow! What a devious plan! The whole thing can blow up in their faces and next thing you know the population will be demanding Democracy! Now that's scary! :eekeyes: :eekeyes: :eekeyes:
     
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    If such were indeed the case, there would be no prohibition on the private ownership of so-called "assault weapons" being enacted into law. And yet there are, demonstrating that it is not simply "a few fringe folks" as is being claimed by yourself.
     
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    A fatally flawed form of government that too many people incorrectly think is the American form of government.
     
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    When referring to one of the highest muzzle velocities, I presume you are referring to the .223 5.56 chamberings. The AR has many chamberings... so you are using a round, not the platform as a damning criteria.
    That, and you obviously know nothing of terminal ballistics. Even with the .233 or the 5.56 there is significant variation in loads, compounded by barrel length and rifling twist that not only affect accuracy but terminal results.
    And, Many states prohibit that round for hunting medium/large game because the .223/5.56 rounds are considered too anemic to be humane for taking game.
    Even the military is evaluating moving from the 5.56 to a more effective round.
    BTW, the .223 and 5.56 are not completely interchangeable in all AR. Using an AR not ratted for the 5.56 round can be a risky proposition to the shooter.
    As for minimal recoil, you should try my .458 SOCOM chambered upper with 300 gr rounds.
    Aside from 30 round mags being extended, they aren’t, they are standard. But you can also use mags with less capacity. Any gun, even bolt action guns, with removable mags can support any capacity mag (knew a fellow that adapted 20 rnd BAR mags for use in his .303 Lee Enfield, which in a ‘Mad minute excersize, he could shoot as rapidly accurate as many with an AR.
    There are concealable pistols with more terminal potential than an AR using varmit rounds, which is what most hunters consider the .223.
    Let’s face it your criteria is based on ignorance...the foundation of much of anti gun generated proposed law.
     
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    Careful when you pick up those guns. The barrels will be hot.
     
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    Since I was referring to bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and revolvers, "assault type weapons" have nothing to do with anything I said. Try again.
     

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