Dozens of Gang Members Released By Sanctuary Policies

This isn't liberal ideology driving this, but something else that gets called liberalism because that is what democrats have been until more recently. I don't recognize this as liberalism. It goes far too far into loony tunes land to qualify as legit liberalism, IMO.

I guess those sanctuary areas would rather keep their criminal gang members in those communities. For they could be deported and the criminal element gets reduced, helping those illegal alien communities. I understand that they think by not turning illegals over to ice, that the community will be more apt to work with the local police, because they feel safe from deportation. Yet, the rationality breaks down when they refuse to turn criminal gang members who are here illegally, over to ICE. So, this is far left loony tunes thinking here. Cognitive dissonance devoid of logic, reason and rationality. And when policies are devoid of these things, it never turns out well, in fact to the contrary.

There is no excuse for this village idiot behavior. None. What in the hell is wrong with these people? It is anarchy, radical anarchy. Retarded anarchy.

 

Solved what my friend?

 

It still means a lot aren't US citizens.

 

True but spending 27 billions or so on a wall that have no power to stop a large percent of the one fearsome gang members that Trump keep referring to seems kind of wasteful.

 

Isn't there a third possibility? Considering the ludicrous sanctuary policies in California, isn't it possible that they made an exemption to the law in order to prevent this guy from being deported?

 

No, the law is there. They could and should inform the courts in the event the law is broken. If they did not then they are failing to cooperate with the law and should not complain when the law is not enforced.

 

It's just one gang and the wall works. Always has.

 

Who is "they" in all of that?

 

ICE or Homeland security, whomever is the fed that is responsible for issuing the hold request or informing of previous information of gang activity by the individuals. If they issued a hold order after informing the California authorities of said gang activity then they have a case in court and should exercise it. If not, quit trying to pass the blame or inflame people into believing something that isn't true.

 

Your opinion has been rambling this deflection away from the truth for 5 pages now. I finally got bored enough to take a whopping 30 seconds to go prove that California has been breaking the law. Releasing illegal criminals many that are dangerous back into their streets.

Please note I am a full advocate of pathways for DACAs as well as a total reform of our immigration system to address the legal status of the remainder of good honest hardworking illegals for economic reasons mainly. But I want all violent criminal illegals focus on felons and gangmembers out!

The link has multiple clear cut examples of criteria where Cali has obstructed ICE illegaly and their politicians encourage it openly so frankly I don't know what your opinion is going on about

On Aug. 2, 2017, the Santa Rosa Police Department in California arrested a citizen of Guatemala, on charges of inflicting corporal injury to a spouse/cohabitant, and booked him into the Sonoma County Jail in Santa Rosa, California. ICE lodged a detainer the same day. The next day at approximately 8:12 p.m. PDT, a Sonoma County Jail sergeant called ICE and advised that the suspect would be released shortly. At 8:36 p.m. PDT, Sonoma County Jail emailed ICE indicating his release. The jail provided ICE with only 24 minutes notice before it released the alien, despite the fact that the jail is located about 65 miles from the nearest ICE field office. ICE did not arrest the alien due to insufficient time given to respond. On Aug. 18, 2017, the Santa Rosa Police Department in California arrested the same individual as a suspect in the murder of his alleged girlfriend. He remains in Sonoma County Sheriff’s custody with an ICE-lodged immigration detainer.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...ornias-radical-agenda-resistance-federal-law/

 

And that has exactly zero to do with the question at hand.
And it's a very sad day when the White house website has headlines that are written by someone auditioning for fox news.

 

Call me a "Conspiracy Nut" but for some reason, this is neither coincidence nor accidental. This could be a move to increase police presence, growing governmental interference, more loss of liberties and freedoms, and increased police state. WELCOME TO OCEANIA!

 

The OP is about the releasing of violent illegals by Sanctuary cities. Your opinion has been babbling about demanding proof where ICE has supplied detainers. I provide it with an indisputable source and your response is that it's not the question at hand?? Ok so now I just lob your opinion in with the rest of the leftists that can't admit when they are wrong. Heck I don't care if left or right. Just take ownership, Cali is breaking federal law and that one case I cited there in federal court cooks their goose. A woman was murdered due to their obstruction. All for political reasons.

There is a long list of them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...ornias-radical-agenda-resistance-federal-law/

 

That is the topic.
California laws expressly say that known gang members are to be held for ICE.
Operative word being "known".
If ICE is informing California authorities those authorities are in direct violation of California law.
ICE is either negligent or lying. Neither is a good thing.

 

Excuse me leftist propaganda opinion like a dog with a bone. My source gives specific examples of California doing exactly that. Releasing illegal criminals after ICE has issued a retainer. Causing Great harm. There is no if. My source is indisputable...stop repeating the same nonsense that you have since the first page. If this and if that but oh ICE is lying yet you can't prove it. I have proven they are not. ICE nor the Federal government is lying. Your spinning untruths directly in the face of proof that counters your assertion. Get it together.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...ornias-radical-agenda-resistance-federal-law/

 

I like the signs. Good way to say, "Enter at your our risk!"

 

What would the case in court be?

 

You mean DACCA? Deferred Action for CERTAIN Childhood Arrivals.

 

The problem is, the Californian policy to hold people for ICE, according to @StillBlue only applies to GANG members. So it would appear that the worst piece of human waste illegal alien who has raped countless women and murdered countless men, but is not a member of a gang, would indeed not fit the criteria and not be held for ICE. How very PROGRESSIVE!

 

I said no such thing. There are many crimes that get an illegal held for ICE but the discussion was on gangs. How do I prove the negative? If they, ICE, have proof that they have informed California of someone's gang affiliation then it is incumbent upon them to produce that proof so the offending authorities can be brought to justice. If not they can and should be told to keep their unproven and unprofessional theories to themselves.
They have taken the move out of Trump's playbook. Millions of illegal voters yet only two prosecuted. Somebody is lying or doing a.pretty crappy job of tracking down the "millions".