Parkland student questioned by school security for visiting gun range

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  1. Polydectes

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    if you ask me he should be facing prison time because of his willful ineptitude 17 people were murdered.

    Somehow I'm not surprised that an inept buffoon is also corrupt
     
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    He's a Democrat that's supported by DWS. Of course he's corrupt and incompetent.
     
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    the fact that a child felt it worth reporting, why did the child feel it was worth reporting, I see no problem with a teacher talking to the child and checking it out, in this case seems to have been harmless, I sure wish in the last case they had done the same
     
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    They did check the last one out. At least 40 times.

    Did you read the tweet? What was in the tweet that would concern law enforcement, in your opinion?
     
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    Children may think things are worth reporting but that doesn't equate to worth investigating. A teacher talking to the child is one thing dumbass security and retatded police is over board.

    They wouldn't had to have investigated a normal person doing a normal thing to prevent the parkland shooting. Thru would have simply had to be the bear minimum of competent. The **** **** police were called out to the shooter's residence dozens of times and did nothing.

    Then when the monster they failed to address went on a rampage they sat on the sidelines letting students get gunned down.

    17 people were murdered because of their ineptitude and cowardice. So I don't see harassing people they have no business harassing as valid.
     
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    Check what out?
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Any association a person has with guns.

    Because you know these incompetent cowardly neerdowells allowed a person to murder 17 people. And they want to prove they aren't incompetent cowardly neerdowells.
     
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    No because you are directing and helping drum up hate at a teenager who crime is exercising his rights under the first amendment an knowing that such hate could get the teenager and or his family killed as they are on the receiving end of daily death threats from very unstable but likely arm people.
     
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    disagreeing with David Hogg is okay, if people sent him threats that isn't because people disagree with him. It's because those scumbags threatening him are being *******s.
     
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    Strangely as far as I had hear him he is not for repealing the 2 amendment or doing anything but replaced the former restriction back on one type of firearm and raising the age of firearms ownership.

    Hardly a position that you would think would get the kid compare to Hitler and so on.

    From reading the internet postings on this website and others there seem one hell of a lot of both armed and emotionally unstable people to the point even as a gun owner I am wondering if the 2 amendment is worth having even as silly as I think that the UK is being that even their nation pistol team need to travel outside the UK to practice.
     
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    Pray tell, exactly what firearm, and exactly what restriction, are being referred to?
     
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    Oh, I'm certain that they learned their lessons on that.

    No. 17 children are dead because of their apathy and failure to do their duty. Idiots can do amazingly good work at times. This wasn't one of them.

    I agree, except that investigating a possible threat isn't being "more stupid", it's doing the job they should have done before.

    I don't know, and I don't care.

    Are you a teenage boy who attends a high school where a former student murdered 17 kids recently and posts pictures on social media holding a firearm?

    That's a bit too histrionic for my taste, to be honest.

    On the contrary. I hope that every time they are alerted to a teen with a firearm, no matter how benign that may be, they, at least, do a cursory investigation. We owe society that much.

    Agreed, but people get questioned all the time, even when doing legal activities. It comes from living in a society of laws. How do they know unless they question someone if what they're up to is legal or not? I'd rather a teen with a budding 2A complex get his feathers rustled a bit, than the opposite occur and this get brushed under the rug like it was with Cruz and that kid goes on to kill someone.
     
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    What was the threat they were investigating?
     
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    yes I disagree with both of those things. The assault weapons ban from 94 or whatever didn't do anything it didn't ban a single gun. Further sing adults can't have firearms wouldn't do anything.

    well people compare everyone they don't like to Hitler it's grown so common that I hardly give it a second thought. I've been called the Nazi on this forum but I don't believe in Exterminating the Jews or the superiority of the Aryan race. It's hyperbole it's childish and to give it any more attention than what I just did is to legitimize it.

    something to keep in mind is when people are on the internet they are anonymous so they can say things with impunity and often times people become emotional and when they become emotional they become irrational. It's just words and a forum where nobody is held accountable. Public interactions with such people are far different.

    So please don't gauge the entire Pro 2nd Amendment group based on what a microcosm of overly emotional people say online.
     
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    I'm glad you asked.

    He didn't answer me when I did. Twice.
     
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    I look forward to being informed about the threat they were investigating.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    well I would say they haven't because they even quit their job and found something else to do obviously they are not cut out for police work it's not for everyone I tried it it wasn't for me look Ali nobody died because of my incompetence but I didn't feel that I could arrest 16 year olds for having quarter ounce of pot.



    no it's an aptitude incompetence and I'm going to have to say a touch of corruption. You don't have to be particularly brilliant to be a police officer you just have to be able to take a whole lot of b******* and be rather Fearless at times.



    they weren't investigating a possible threat there are too incompetent to know what a possible threat is that's why they investigated some kid who didn't do anything that would be considered a possible threat the possible actual threat they did have ample knowledge of they completely failed to do anything about.

    Going to the gun range with your father is not two threatening and anyway it doesn't Merit investigation it's just an everyday thing that a lot of people do and it's never investigated why all of a sudden is it now?



    well it was just 17 people that were murdered. And these f*** heads continue 2B flunkies investigating stupid s*** that has nothing to do with anything.

    I'm a mess you don't give a s*** that piss poor police work resulted in the death of 17 people would if that was one of your relatives or friends or your child would you care then?



    that's a dumbass question anyone can kill people not just 17 year old boys. And the fact that the piss-poor police officers and Sheriff let this s*** happen despite ample opportunity to step in and do something doesn't give the same retards a right to harass people for doing something that is not suspicious that is not a criminal act.





    nonsense objections noted it's still in the police that are to blame at least partially. It's being stupid cowardly and connect does not give you the right to harass people for doing something that is not suspicious in any way.



    these retards didn't do s*** about the one that killed 17 people they should all be fired. This shouldn't be harassing people because they're trying to make up for their s*** ass mistake.



    not just because they're doing these legal non suspicious activities. If you question someone who was at a shopping mall when the theft occurred that's one thing if you go harass someone for being at a shopping mall because they were at a shopping mall that is pointless.

    no it doesn't you don't disrupt someone's learning to question them about nothing there was nothing suspicious there was nothing to even provoke the need to question.

    well I would say being called out to the shooters house 26 f****** times is enough but they didn't do s***. So I have no respect for the so-called the police work they are doing now they allowed this to happen they didn't arrest the shooter they didn't detain the shooter they didn't put the shooter on any kind of observation they just said oh well and walked away and 17 people or murdered because of it.

    So forgive me for being a little in raged at these stupid scumbags are harassing children now for absolutely no provocation.

    It's hard to imagine that this was just swept under the rug it had to be willful ignorance or corruption for you to be called out to a house 26 times and do f****** nothing and lo and behold that nightmare goes in kills people.

    Going to your gun range with your father is not likely to end in something like the Parkland shooting. Idiots police not doing their job is what is likely to end in that situation.

    They had no business questioning him nothing he did was suspicious the point is hundreds and thousands of people go to the gun range every single day and they don't get questioned by the police.

    This isn't the circumstance where it's acceptable what is happening here is the inept police are trying to save face when what they should be doing is resigning. They do not have the wherewithal or the guts to do this job they let their corrupt Sheriff be corrupt they got called out to a house 26 x and did nothing and when the man started shooting up the school they said out there and wet their pants.

    These people should not be investigating anything. They should all be canned and a new sheriff be appointed.
     
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    They'll ignore it, because they know they can't answer it.
     
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    I didn't say "threat", I said "possible threat", and without speaking with him there would be no way to ascertain the difference between the two.

    Look, I get it, I really do. But, you've wrapped yourself so tightly in the 2A you cannot even be bothered to see things from a rational perspective.

    If we didn't have some idiot shooting up someone or something nearly every week, cops wouldn't be inclined to look in to every instance of a legal citizen with a legal firearm. I don't post my guns on social media for this simple reason.

    But, let's not forget that nearly every shooter in the past ten years was a legal firearm owner up until they decided not to be and opened fire on their fellow citizens.

    I'm inclined to give LEO a bit of leeway in deciding whom they wish to talk to regarding firearms.

    TL;DR, Don't post crap on social media, legal or not, if that crap might get you a visit from your local LEO.

    And please forgo whining about the 1A. it doesn't apply here. The government didn't try and stop him from posting. They simply had a few simple questions after he decided to do so.
     
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    There was no threat. They want to give the appearance that they aren't complete failures or corrupt.

    I'm going into the petroleum industry. If I make an honest mistake that costs the of 17 people, I never work in that field again are possibly face prosecution. But to willfully ignore all the warning signs and to pretend that you didn't do anything wrong and you get to keep your job that's b*******.

    I did not have faith in myself that I could do that job I trained to be a police officer with Texas I got my commission card I worked for Department for a little over a year and decided hey I can't do this there certain parts of this job that I'm not going to do so I'm going to resign.

    These people that went to this should have done this they should have reported they're corrupt retard Sheriff to internal affairs.

    So because of their gross ineptitude they don't have the ability to decide what is a threat and what isn't not until they get rid of that piece of s*** Sheriff I would say put his ass Behind Bars but that's just me and fire all those inept cowardly pieces of s*** cops they wouldn't do their f****** job. Then maybe maybe they would have the slightest shred of credibility.

    I don't know why the people of Parkland art at the sheriff's office with pitchforks and torches ousting that piece of s*** ******bag.
     
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    Using the term "threat" is disingenuous. Not every police action is investigating a threat, most are to determine if an actual threat exists. In this case no threat was found, and life as we know it goes on.
     
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    I have been taking my kids to the range since they were little. I am in California, so I made sure they knew not to talk about it in school, not to post pictures on social media. If anyone asks about guns in our home, they are told to call me.

    Keep in mind, I live in a state that makes me a felon if I walk outside my home with a gun, but not too long ago, it was only a misdemeanor for someone to steal a gun from my home.
     
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    Only 1 percent of all homicides in the US are mass shootings, as defined by 4 people killed in an incident or more. Also keep in mind that figure is bloated by non-random killings like gang shootings.

    I can understand why they're skittish, but having a mass shooting hit the same school twice is very unlikely.
     
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    that particular police department has showing their inability to assess a possible threat that resulted in the death of 17 people. It wasn't a possible threat when they had a possible threat they ignored it 26 times. They don't get to make up stupid things and say they're possible threats.
    quit making excuses yes they do. A real credible threat existed in their jurisdiction they were alerted of it 26 times at did nothing and as a result 17 people died. They have proved themselves grossly incompetent of assessing a threat or a possible threat. They have zero credibility.

    there is no perspective that is rational where I person going to the gun range expresses a possible threat. It is completely rational that if your department is called 26 * to a house where an 18 year old lives alone and that FBI was notified twice of this person that there is a threat there but they didn't evaluate it that way so they have no credibility.

    The way to clean up your image if your negligence led to a person being able to blow away a school is to resign that is it.

    the cops did nothing 2 encumber a mass shooting. They have proven themselves grossly incompetent. So they don't get to assess threats anymore.

    and that is how free speech is curtailed. Just because you possess guns does not give police any ability to assess you as a threat. Just like saying things doesn't give police the ability to assess you as a threat. We have a second amendment.

    let us also not forget the police were called on this person 26 times and the FBI was notified now if all of these people hadn't been incompetent and did their job we would probably not even know about Parkland.

    if they didn't prove themselves to be wholly and completely incompetent in a situation that resulted in the death of 17 people I would too but they don't have the ability to assess what is or isn't a possible threat 17 children and teachers where murdered under their watch.

    posting something that does not indicate the slightest possibility of a threat should not prompt a visit from local law enforcement.

    They didn't have any questions they were trying to clean up their well-deserved poor Public Image.

    The Parkland shooting happened under their watch because they were negligent. They have proven themselves incapable of assessing what is or isn't a threat
     
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    it's messed up that your children have to deal with that institutionalized bigotry. I'm glad you're teaching them to protect themselves from an overbearing government

    What horrendous bigotry
     
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