Guns banned from NRA event for Pence's safety. Parkland survivors ask, why not for us? Read more he

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  1. Maccabee

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    I think you can carry in national parks but not the buildings in it.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you have a agency like the secret service protecting the schools and students there would be no need for teachers to be armed
     
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    Correct. But if you need to get some sort of permit or have to pay a fee, you better not wear a gun into the building.
     
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    The "Firearms Policy" section on their convention website makes it clear that "lawfully carried firearms will be permitted" at the site of the convention center. However, Pence's speech falls under different rules. "Due to the attendance of the Vice President of the United States, the U.S. Secret Service will be responsible for event security at the NRA-ILA Leadership Forum," the event page for Mike Pence's speech reads, in bold print. "As a result, firearms and firearm accessories, knives or weapons of any kind will be prohibited in the forum prior to and during his attendance."
     
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    Youi sound like a gun grabber making all those rules. I thought the second amendment said the federal government cannot deny us our right to have guns, and now you say they are doing just that because it is the rules and that is all cool? Then it is cool that the federal government can say no to weapons and you are a gun grabber. Welcome to our side.
     
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    I understand perfectly. Rules were enshrined by the government that restrict your fundamental rights. And you're okay with that, except when it involves a church, or a school, or a movie theater, or an outdoor concert, or a....well, you get the picture.
     
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    not admitting a dam thing
    there would be no need for others to be armed because the secret service will be that is what they hell I'm admitting
    good guys with guns very good guys
    but we don't have the luxury of the secret service protecting everyone and everyplace all the time
    so that is when us citizens have the right and the need to be armed
     
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    I never said the NRA banned them, only that they were, in fact, banned.
     
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    No I don't.
     
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    So then you are saying we could get highly trained prepared security to guard our children and we could maintain that no regular people carry guns within schools and that schools are a gun free zone which would make them safer than if there were a bunch of gun owners floating about?

    Dude, you are totally stealing the librul lines. Are you sure you are not a democrat? Can you prove you did not vote for hillary in the last election?
     
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    Its not a law or even a rule it is a condition set forth by the secret service if you want the VP or President to be in attendance
    the NRA could say no we wont force those in attendance to disarm but they would be giving up having the VP or President attend
     
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    I don’t make the rules, and don’t particularly care for them. But I do follow them. I’m licensed in the state of California and the state of Nevada to carry concealed. Just to get my mail, I have to park across the street, lock my .45 in the truck, just go in to open my PO box. It’s dumb, but it’s the law. And I am law abiding.
     
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    So, the 2nd Amendment does, indeed, have it's limits. Thank you for clarifying.
     
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    that isn't the liberal line many liberal are against the police being at schools all together
    and the reason we have discussed allowing teachers to be armed because there isn't enough police at schools in many cases none at all
     
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    no limit
    the NRA could easily and lawfully say no to the secret service and the VP and or President wouldn't attend
     
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    So, the NRA, whose entire MO is to insist that every American is responsible for their own safety, and is therefore constitutionally entitled to carry a firearm, is now relying on the federal government to keep them safe?

    Comedy gold. You can't write this stuff, folks...
     
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    if I had my own personal secret service agent I would happily give up by guns
    but I don't and I never will so dam right I will keep and need to be given the right and means to be able to protect my self and family
     
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    It is ok, you have totally admitted it. Certainly these magical Secret Service guys and the good guys of the NRA can work together to stop any evil does from shooting the president. If we cannot trust the NRA with guns then we cannot really trust anyone with them, can we?

    You are the one telling us the NRA is untrustworthy with guns. That is why they cannot have them around the president. You are also telling us the federal government can ban our possesion of firearms if it is a danger, and according to you it is dangerous so that is gun ban time Mr Gun Grabber.
     
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    Actually you lie, many liberal people want armed and prepared police around schools to stop drug dealers, shooters, and violence. Stop speaking for others and clarify yourself Mr Gun Grabber.
     
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    So if the law said you could not own a gun as a law abiding citizen you would be fine with giving up your guns. Sounds like you are fine with gun grabbing to me.
     
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    Yeah. You got there first and spoiled the surprise answer but the Secret Service mandates this.
     
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    A request is something you can deny. This is something you will be arrested if you do. That is not a request. Nice try but you are still getting very gun grabby.
     
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    the NRA could easily and lawfully deny the request and the VP or president wouldn't attend
     
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    Nope! You couldn’t be more wrong. I’m just not ready to become an outlaw........yet.
     
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    That is actually still not a request, that is a required condition. A request is something you can refuse, and life goes on. You are really trying very hard to dance here and it is not working. The members of the NRA at an NRA event have had their right to have their firearms revoked and the NRA and it's members are just fine with that. If the federal government can do that on that night for the reasons they want then they can do it anytime and anywhere because ..........say it with me......You all are afraid of the cops and being arrested so you will comp[ly with a federal ban if it comes around.
     

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