Yes, Donald Trump Is Making White People More Hateful

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    HILLARY blame others!? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Our DEFINITIONS of "landslide" are a wee bit different. :)
     
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    Yes, correct.
    Jesus' hates women so much (and he hasn't bothered to speak up and change in all these centuries - I certainly would have) that to this very day the main book of his religion says this about women: "....women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” (ESV)

    Ladies, are you inferior, or is God/Jesus wrong?
     
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    More people proving they do not understand the Constitution and our form of government, or else acting as if they do for political grandstanding, and the fact there is no national popular vote. I can well imagine if it ever passes the agreement will be declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS. Can you figure out why?
     
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    And women were deprived of the resources when they had to take care of the children and the home. And don’t forget if it wasn’t women who decided that only men should serve in the military it was men. What woman was in charge of our government?
     
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    Nobody forced them to do that, so no, they weren't deprived of resources as much as men were. And they certainly weren’t deprived of their lives like men were.

    Women have been in congress since 1917 and women have been voting since 1920. Women have fought long and hard for about a century to maintain their privileged status over men.
     
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    You’re right no one forced women to care for their children. No one forced women to care for the home. And of course no women died in childbirth They could have just abandoned both , their homes and kids then who would raise the future soldiers (sarcasm alert)
    Women now have privileged status over men? Oh yes we have had so many women in Congress in 1917 almost as many as black people
     
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    The US govt certainly wasn’t

    Women don’t have to sign up for the draft and are far less likely to be killed in combat
    Women are heavily favored in divorce and family courts
    Women are far less likely to be homicide victims than men
    Women are far less likely to commit suicide than men
    Women are far less likely to be killed in workplace accidents than men
    Women are far less likely to be homeless than men
    Women are far less likely to be incarcerated than men
    Women receive lighter sentences on average than men
    Women are more likely to graduate from college than men
    Women control more personal wealth than men

    Should I keep going? The majority privileged class always benefits by convincing everyone that they’re actually the victims
     
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    I’m trying to figure out how being less likely to do these things is a privilege,
    Men have to sign up for the draft and that was passed by men, don’t blame women for that decision, if you recall women and to fight to get into the military And of course it’s the men who start the wars . If you think that is wrong do something about it. While men are being drafted , women are raising children. When men come home they have all kinds of benefits like the GI bill.and seniority in their jobs. Personally I think there should be a national draft for all.....
    Women are not favored in divorce..they usually get screwed over.
    The others are the actions of men. Women are more likely to be battered by a man, killed by a man, raped by a man etc
    Women are more likely to graduate from college not because of privilege but because they work at it. And women do not control more personal wealth than men ....that is ridiculous.
    You sound like you want to be a victim so badly...I call it victim envy
     
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    I already countered this point, you're being repetitive. Women have voted for a century to maintain their privileged position on this issue, otherwise they'd have to register for the selective service too.

    That's false. Men and women elect the politicians who start the wars becuase that's what the voters want.

    I do, I don't vote for warmongering politicians.

    You are being solipsistic. When soliders come back home, assuming they didn't get any limbs taken off, they have all kinds of mental health issues ranging from depression to PTSD. A lot of them end up homeless and commit suicide. They can't get the help they need becuase government is extremely inefficient at providing healthcare.

    Why? The state should not be allowed to use people for pawns of war if they don't have enough people willing to voluntarily sign up.

    No it's because the K-12 public school system is female dominated, and boys have trouble adapting in a system where feminine traits are desirable and masculine traits are viewed as undesireable. They lose interest in education because it's not catered towards them. Boys are not wired to sit still for 9 hours a day, we are wired to go out hunting and kill **** to bring back to the cave woman and cave kids. It's at the point where parents are actually feeding their kids drugs like SPEED in order to get them to be able to function in the female dominated educational environment.

    https://read.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/education-at-a-glance-2015_eag-2015-en#page9

    The reversal is laid out in a report published on March 5th by the OECD, a Paris-based rich-country think-tank. Boys’ dominance just about endures in maths: at age 15 they are, on average, the equivalent of three months’ schooling ahead of girls. In science the results are fairly even. But in reading, where girls have been ahead for some time, a gulf has appeared. In all 64 countries and economies in the study, girls outperform boys. The average gap is equivalent to an extra year of schooling.

    The OECD deems literacy to be the most important skill that it assesses, since further learning depends on it. Sure enough, teenage boys are 50% more likely than girls to fail to achieve basic proficiency in any of maths, reading and science. Youngsters in this group, with nothing to build on or shine at, are prone to drop out of school altogether.

    Once in the classroom, boys long to be out of it. They are twice as likely as girls to report that school is a “waste of time”, and more often turn up late.

    Perhaps because they can be so insufferable, teenage boys are often marked down. The OECD found that boys did much better in its anonymised tests than in teacher assessments.

    What is behind this discrimination? One possibility is that teachers mark up students who are polite, eager and stay out of fights, all attributes that are more common among girls. In some countries, academic points can even be docked for bad behaviour. Another is that women, who make up eight out of ten primary-school teachers and nearly seven in ten lower-secondary teachers, favour their own sex, just as male bosses have been shown to favour male underlings. In a few places sexism is enshrined in law: Singapore still canes boys, while sparing girls the rod.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/women-now-control-more-than-half-of-us-personal-wealth-2015-4

    Exactly what I'd expect a member of the privileged class to say. The majority (women, whites, Christians, etc.) necessarily must perpetuate the illusion of victim status in order to maintain their privileged status in society.
     
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    Then why did women have to fight to fly planes and be in combat??Who opposed that? MEN! If you don’t think it’s fair..DO SOMETHING!

    You really think men and women voted for the Vietnam nam war? The Iraq war? No, those were started by men!

    There is something kind of funny that you blame female teachers for boys doing poorly. Isn’t it amazing that boys did just fine for centuries and guess what? Schools were always female dominated...even more than today. How come boys did fine when they were in school? They’re still doing the same, but girls are catching up and going ahead. Using your logic that schools were predominantly controlled by females, wouldn’t it have made sense that girls would have done better? Maybe girls are doing better now because they now have equal educational opportunities. Don’t make up excuses for boys. OK I like your idea let them go out and hunt and let girls get educated

    I love your argument that boys consider school a waste of time more than girls. That’s a totally made up silly argument And your facts are so wrong about female teachers preferring girls. I happened to be involved in the study years ago showing teachers showed preference to boys both male and female teachers. ..especially in the lower grades I even became aware of myself that I would give preference to a boy who raised his hand over a girl. Tell me what has changed? You see, boys didn’t have to compete with girls . What you are is being an enabler for boys doing poorly.

    As far as women controlling wealth, maybe that’s true in Canada , sure as hell, not here . I can’t Imagine anyone actually believing that. I hope you’re not confusing man who put money in women’s names for tax reasons. Check out Forbes list

    Sorry I can’t muster sympathy for the white male Christians
    victimization. Those poor guys having absolutely no power. Lol victim envy
     
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    It's true that men were responsible for that before women had the right to vote. But after women gained the right to vote, they continued to elect politicians for almost a century that kept the ban on women in combat. You can't place the blame squarely on men for that.

    Repetitive, wrong, and already addressed.

    Source for your claim that schools were more female dominated than they are today.

    Source for your claim that boys are doing the same as they were.

    Could be that boys never did as well as they could have, and now that girls have equal opportunities and an incentive to compete with boys, the detrimental effects of a female dominated education system on boys are finally starting to become apparent because we now have something to compare their performance to.

    It's not made up, they were twice as likely to report it in that study. You are just dismissing the facts because they upset your worldview.

    Got a link to the study?

    That's what the study demonstrated. You are just dismissing the facts because they upset your worldview.
     
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    Well clearly Hilary won the Popular Vote...........the likely conclusion is Trump with Putin 's help bribed and hacked the Electoral College
     
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    Name a candidate who wanted women to serve in the military. Since most women didn’t want to go to war, why would they fight to be drafted? Who would raise the children?
    I can show you studies that can prove your point, or my point. The reality is that boys in poverty areas do worse than girls...
    Or maybe females are just more intelligent:)
     
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    definition of a landslide,
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    Hillary Clinton

    They wouldn't, of course. Like all privileged majorities in a society, they prefer to maintain their privileged status of not having to register for the selective service.

    Show me studies that prove your point then.

    If that were true then women would have been responsible for most technological advancement throughout history. But they weren't, not even close.
     
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    Here you go... this one is about science classes in particular, but other studies show similar results, in other countries (Israel, Malaysia) and in other topics. It's interesting that both male and female teachers give preference and attention to male students, but except for science, math, and engineering, female students are now doing better than male students in nearly every field of academic endeavor. The theory that gender discrimination by teachers accounts for the gender disparity in the STEM fields falls down when you realize the same gender discrimination goes on in the other fields, too, but the disparity runs the other way.

    https://www.narst.org/publications/research/gender.cfm
     
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    Hillary Clinton wants women drafted? You’ll have to show me that
    Yes women are so privileged. Nothing like cooking and cleaning and raising children. No work involved in that at all. (Sarcasm alert) Hey if you’re so upset about men being drafted and not women, why don’t you start a movement? That’s what women did and we made changes, so instead of whining.... take action
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound when you say that women have not made technological advances throughout history and not realize that women were not allowed to be educated in that field. The schools for that banned women, Now that women are leading in science and medicine you will see great advances...we already are. The leading scientists and doctors at Johns Hopkins are now mostly women
     
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    Why would I show you something that I never said in the first place?

    Men do all of those things too

    The only way to possibly make any kind of effect on policy is to educate people into voting for politicians who will do the right things and not vote for politicians who will do the wrong things. It only becomes a movement when I can convince enough people to become as vocal about it as I am.

    In other words, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. The problem is that too many women prefer to maintain their privileged status instead of having actual equality, so they obfuscate the issue. Much like you are doing right now.

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound when you say that I said something that I never actually said?

    So you're saying that having a formal STEM education is necessary for someone to make a technological advancement? And you're also saying that every civilization in history up until the 20th century made it illegal for women to be educated in STEM? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

    How do you know that?
     
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    I am not hateful, much less more hateful.
     
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    I asked very specifically what woman candidate wanted women to serve in the military. You said Hillary Clinton. Of course women should be allowed if they choose, but we were talking about men having to serve
    Voting for the right politician isn’t a movement, women made a difference. They changed the politics of the country. You feel that men are oppressed and women have the power, then do something more, It might be difficult because many men would just laugh at you when you actually believe that women have a power when all you have to do is look around you.
    It’s difficult to debate with you because you think women had equal opportunities throughout history. Of course a STEM education is vital for technology...it puts people at an advantage . Women were discouraged from these programs and top engineering schools didn’t accept girls it was legal to discriminate
     
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    That might be a tiny bit true, as far as the girls doing better part is concerned.

    It's more true to say that boys are doing less well now, because the school system has become social-engineered in a way which discourages success for boys.
     
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    I've had actual spit thrown at me, along with similar words. I've had doors slammed in my face. I've been harassed by just about every resident of a street I once walked down. I actually lived in a place where I was daily harangued for being the 'wrong' race. Not one of these incidents, or even all of them collectively, made the slightest difference to my happiness, my progress, or my refusal to play their own stupid game. And it sure as hell didn't make me stand around aggressively in race slogan t-shirts.

    You either work the system to your own advantage, or you cry and pretend to be helping. If everyone works the system to their own advantage, then no one is 'oppressed'. These idiots aren't fooling anyone.
     

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