Nearly Half of Bay Area Residents Want Out: Poll

Hmmm...now what do all of these municipalities have in common? Hmmm....

 

The I Got Mine...You Can't Have Yours syndrome that rich white leftists love so much.

I escaped the Bay Area about three years ago, by the way.

 

True to a point. You find a lot of those same issues in most warm cities that are home to people with lots of money.

They just happen to be the people with some of the highest concentrations of wealth in the country, therefore the problems will scale appropriately.

The situation isn't unique to San Fran, it's just an easy target due to the obviousness and concentration of the issues that can be found anywhere you have a large divide between the rich and the poor.

 

Are you to lazy to do a quick google search? In the last several years they have received hundreds of millions in tax cuts and exemptions and even flat out subsidies compared to normal businesses that don't have their political clout and don't receive special treatment. This is why I know that liberals are full of ****. They are phonies who rail all day against tax cuts but when its in their backyard they are all for them.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/12/san-francisco-ed-lee-oversaw-tax-break-advocated-for-tech.html

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10...aks-especially-aerospace-entertainment-media/

https://www.thenation.com/article/how-the-swindlers-of-silicon-valley-avoid-paying-taxes/

 

Plenty of liberals oppose those policies, as your links show.

 

This may be true but for the middle class it's a S-hole. Try living in the bay Area on 40 or 50 thousand dollars a year. You wouldn't be able to afford to get out of the S-hole school system or neighborhoods. I was lead to believe, growing up in a Democrat family, that the Democrats were against the rich and for the working class. Well looks like you guys could careless about the homeless, the working class, who literally support you, you would die without them, or vets. It's about money and power that is why we have sanctuary cites. Evil will win some battles but Good will win the war. If a person votes Democrat in California they are either on welfare, an inmate, illegal, or are a part of the rich elitist. You guys keep great company don't ya. The welfare people are being scammed. BTW I live in California and spent 20 years in the Bay Area. It is now a S-hole. You are either to young to remember how it was or your very selfish otherwise you would agree you would agree.

 

Exactly.

 

Don't try to be too logical, you have probably confused him.

Oh, and on topic, Location, Location, Location.

 

No they don't. California has the highest income inequality in the entire nation. California is the ONLY state with a supermajority of Democrats. Californians elected those people into office, politicians who spent their entire careers spouting off against corporate cronyism and welfare and yet here we are the most liberal city and state in the entire nation give the largest subsidies and tax breaks to the lucky chosen businesses. Meanwhile every other business in the state of CA is choking under high taxes and regulations. There is no clearer example of the blatant hypocrisy of liberals than this situation.

 

San Francisco is NOT a "warm" city unless you compare it
cities nearer the northern border of the nation.
"The coldest winter I ever spent was one summer in San Francisco"...Mark Twain.

I went to school there and spent decades in the North Bay so I know a bit about the subject. That San Francisco is even costlier than New York says much about the city.

 

Don’t forget California gave Hollywood huge tax breaks or they were going to leave.

 

Really? Interesting.

Honestly my view on the subject is heavily skewed.

This was my March

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4557107

Lol.

But yeah, im not surprised it's costlier. Its the tech bubble. The wages are pretty high there for those industries. That brings higher costs. It just sucks for the people who lived there before the tech explosion.

 

The effects of prop 13 in California means majority of property owners pay less property taxes than many very poor southern states.

An employee of mine has a 3 bedroom, 1900 sf tract home that he could sell right now for about $650,000.

His TOTAL taxes for a year is about $600. Its interesting to go to a real estate site and see the their taxes, a very significant of California pays pittance, and in no way pays a way to even do basic services! But their doing just fine!

My landlord pays TOTAL taxes of about $1200 on her 6 unit apartment building. Of course, she happily just raised her currently empty 2 bedroom unit (no pool, no dish washer, no central heat or cooling, 35 years old never seriously remodeled) to $1,700 per month!

Businesses get even a better deal, their taxes are even less under Prop 13, and owners can do 100 year leases.

What's really cute is that a Prop 13 owner can sell their house and get to buy a different house and keep the same valuations until they die. But the part of that the CHILDREN of these Gold Ones ALSO can get the same valuation as their parents, so these kids who inherit these multimillion homes and still pay $600 or $700 per year, thereby subsidising everyone else to live on these lucky ones for not even enough begin to cover their costs.

Many of the people before the "tech explosion" are doing very, very well.

 

People make more money is those places, so prices for everything goes up. I make more money here in Denver than I ever could back where I used to live. Rent and home prices are also much higher here too than there.

 

LA too.
In the middle of a phone conversation with a friend commuting home from work, she gasped and said traffic was stopped for a homeless man in the middle of the intersection who dropped his pants so he was naked to his ankles, and had strewn his garbage bags across the street. Nice way to live - especially when a 1-bedroom apartment is $3500/month, and one has layers of taxes: federal, state, county, and city, along with fines for using too much water, and higher gas prices, etc. It's truly a prog-made hell.

 

It is very expensive to live in the city, certainly the large ones, always has been.

 

How old were you fiddlerdave in 1976 or 1978 ?

Long term memory lost and aren't aware what was happening in California that began in the late 60's and by the 70's tens of thousands of home owners especially the retired who were living on a fixed income were losing their homes every year because they couldn't pay their county property taxes because they were skyrocketing every year.

California was becoming a welfare state during the 60's and 70's and guess who pays for that ? Property owners.

The liberals in the California state legislature have had 40 years to fix Prop 13 but all they know is taxing and spending.

 

I lived in New England (Connecticut) for about eight years. It's a beautiful area, but those snowstorms in March and occasionally in April wore me out.

I prefer Dallas.

 

Where lefties go, we tend to see massive inequality.

Then theres the heroin needles and feces all around.

 

We are doing fine, it is our state government that owes so much in debt and constantly begs for taxes to get raised.

 

Property taxes in CA belong to the County.

 

That sounds like hell.