SHOCK!!! Petro Poroshenko personally gave the order to aim at the plane flying MH 17!!!

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    Former Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Alexei Zhuravko told about the involvement of the official Kiev to the crash of Malaysian Boeing in the Donbass.
    "First, I believe that Poroshenko is personally directly to blame for the fact that he shot down Boeing, and that he gave the order. I can say with confidence: Poroshenko's closest people have already started to say that Poroshenko gave the order to shoot directly this plane, "the expert said in the air of the talk show"Special article".
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201806041709-s1ft.htm
     
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    According to the ex - Deputy of Rada, the close environment of the Ukrainian President told him about it.

    "This is a close environment of Poroshenko, these are people with whom I once worked directly in the Parliament, and they are responsible for their words," Zhuravko explained.

    At the same time, the former MP did not name the names of these "sources" in order not to "expose" these people to danger.

    "The names of these people, so as not to put them in danger, I will not say. But I am responsible for my words, " Zhuravko said.

    The question of the host, whether the politician is not afraid to openly make such accusations, the former Ukrainian MP said:

    "I consciously go for it. Stop talking-this time. You must tell the truth. Today Ukraine is turning into a sinister hell. Today, Ukraine violates all the rules - not the citizens of Ukraine, but Poroshenko and his clique, " Zhuravko said.

    Earlier, the Dutch authorities suggested that the crash of the Malaysian airliner Boeing 777 could be involved in Ukraine. This was stated during the debate by foreign Minister Steph Block.

    "Now it is too early to take any steps in this regard. However, I do not rule out any options," the Minister said.
     
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    [Цитата="Grevzi, должность: 1069163392, член: 78212"]экс-депутат Верховной Рады Алексей Журавко рассказал о причастности официального Киева в крушении Малайзийского Boeing в Донбассе.
    "Во-первых, я считаю, что Порошенко лично и непосредственно виноват в том, что он сбил Боинг, и что он отдал приказ. Я могу с уверенностью сказать: близкие люди Порошенко уже начали говорить, что Порошенко отдал приказ расстрелять прямо на этом самолете", - сказал эксперт в эфире ток-шоу"особая статья".
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201806041709-s1ft.htm[/Цитата]
    It's obvious to everyone who has a brain.
     
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    He said...they said....we all said....russki fake news site, nothing proven about any order:).

    Next.
     
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    This is the official website. It's not fake news like CNN. The person on TV is a Ukrainian deputy.
     
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    Same old Russian crap...
     
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    OK....they're a deputy....it's a case of here say...like an old ukranian saying.."baba doh baba kazahlah"!:).
     
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    All people will know the truth soon. Poroshenko will be hanged as a war criminal.
     
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    MODs dump this CT thread.

    Clean up this.
     
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    Yeah....and well all know the truth about JFK, Roswell, Moon Landing, MLK, etc....
     
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    Are you afraid?:applause:
     
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    Why are you saying this? People have a right to information whether you like it or not.

    I shouldn't be surprised, since the men manning the Buk were wearing Ukrainian uniforms. Frankly I had heard that only the Ministry of Internal Affairs knew about the plane when it happened - which would be Avakov, but if that was so, then why were the men wearing Ukrainian uniforms? Wouldn't this mean that the Ministry of Defense had to have been involved?
     
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    There have been about three maidans with the intentions to lynch Poroshenko, but they haven't managed it yet. As long as Washington wants him in office, he will be in office - and the people be damned.

    Anyway right now the situation is crucial, and a war might break out - unless Poroshenko is waiting for the games to start. Washington traditionally starts wars with Russia during big sporting events.
     
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    It's the truth.
     
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    Your profile picture is the best reply to this post I guess... Lol...
     
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    That's funny.
     
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    To manufacture a 'fog of war' incident? [​IMG] It's nice to know that Putin's in the clear though??
     
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    If I remember, one of the rebels actually took credit on social media for downing a plane on the same day and the same region. It was later taken down.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140717155720/https://vk.com/wall-57424472_7256

    There's an opposition party in parliament. If the Ukrainians don't want to follow "Washington" which I suppose is code for anything Russians dislike, then they can vote them in. On Poroshenko's election day, they obviously chose not to.

    From what I can gather, you are referring to a protests against Poroshenko like the one that took place on Feb. 18. Yes? That protest drew about 2,500 people in Kyiv. If you are comparing this to Euromaidan, I must say I find that to be either a very ignorant or very dishonest comparison. The Euromaidan movement drew more protests than that in Simferpol (5,000+), which is now annexed by Russia. In Kyiv itself, there were an estimated at 400,000-800,000 protesters.
     
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    I know that. I'm all live, my friends were there. Everyone thought it was a Ukrainian plane that was shot down. Nobody assumed that Poroshenko would make such a provocation. The militia did not have BUK missiles, they thought that the Ukrainian military aircraft was shot down by an ARROW missile. They're not air defense specialists.


    [/QUOTE]There's an opposition party in parliament. If the Ukrainians don't want to follow "Washington" which I suppose is code for anything Russians dislike, then they can vote them in. On Poroshenko's election day, they obviously chose not to.

    From what I can gather, you are referring to a protests against Poroshenko like the one that took place on Feb. 18. Yes? That protest drew about 2,500 people in Kyiv. If you are comparing this to Euromaidan, I must say I find that to be either a very ignorant or very dishonest comparison. The Euromaidan movement drew more protests than that in Simferpol (5,000+), which is now annexed by Russia. In Kyiv itself, there were an estimated at 400,000-800,000 protesters.[/QUOTE]
    Many people were brought to KIEV from the Western regions of Ukraine by buses. Paid buses Poroshenko and Kolomoisky. They paid each person on the area of 300 hryvnias a day.
     
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    There was a YouTube video but it was timestamped for the previous day making it obviously faked. What it does indicate is that it was planned to both shoot a plane down and blame the rebels for it.
     
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    The post in the link says July 17.
     
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    This thread is garbage.
     
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    There's an opposition party in parliament. If the Ukrainians don't want to follow "Washington" which I suppose is code for anything Russians dislike, then they can vote them in. On Poroshenko's election day, they obviously chose not to.

    From what I can gather, you are referring to a protests against Poroshenko like the one that took place on Feb. 18. Yes? That protest drew about 2,500 people in Kyiv. If you are comparing this to Euromaidan, I must say I find that to be either a very ignorant or very dishonest comparison. The Euromaidan movement drew more protests than that in Simferpol (5,000+), which is now annexed by Russia. In Kyiv itself, there were an estimated at 400,000-800,000 protesters.[/QUOTE]
    Many people were brought to KIEV from the Western regions of Ukraine by buses. Paid buses Poroshenko and Kolomoisky. They paid each person on the area of 300 hryvnias a day.[/QUOTE]




    Did they also "pay" those protestors from Donetsk, Odessa, kharkiv, etc, because those protests were widespread?:)
     
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    Anything can be faked. But if you had seen as I did the video shown on Australian TV, at the end someone tells the leader that there is another plane that was downed, and he gave orders to quickly get the pilot before he gets away. In other words two planes were downed at the same time, and one was a Ukrainian jet. If the social media was not deliberately faked, (and with the criminals in the Kiev government anything is possible), then the social media was referring to the downed military jet.

    What was not shown on the BBC and other networks were the interviews, where people saw two military jets next to the airliner. A German pilot that examined the photos of the airline cabin, said that bullet holes were not only going into the cabin, but also exiting the cabin which meant the pilot was being shot at from both sides.


    All the parties in Ukraine represent the same minority group. Any opposition that didn't do so were thrown in thrash bins and threatened not to run. Here is one of them:

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    The protests at Maidan which overthrew Yanukovich, came from the same area in Ukraine, and many were Poles - as stated by an announcer on FOX news. Also they were being paid by Merkel and others, unless you believe people from the poorest area of Ukraine could be idle like our trust fund babies at occupy Wall Street?

    There was no one from the South and the East of Ukraine to oppose them, since they were busy working. That is with the exception of a few like the Yanukovich supporters from Crimea who were either killed or harassed for 8 hours in a pogrom.



    Here is a photograph of one of the most recent anti Poroshenko protests. There have been others. If you get on the link you can see the videos with the anti Poroshenko signs - something that isn't revealed readily by our compromised sites.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/18/552815/Ukraine-protest-Saakashvili

    [​IMG]

     
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