"Trump on FBI, phantom law on migrant kids"

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  1. Aphotic

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    I'll never have a problem throwing law breaking illegals out of the country.

    I am a foster parent though so I know the horror of what those kids must be going through and disagree with the separation.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wrong it happened under Obama you just never heard about it because the liberal media covered for him as they always did and it only became an outrage under Trump

    Obama’s Immigration Agencies Separated Children From Their Families, Too
    https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...s-separated-children-from-their-families-too/
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no you are right we should continue with what Obama did

    Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says
    The Obama administration failed to protect thousands of Central American children who have flooded across the U.S. border since 2011, leaving them vulnerable to traffickers and to abuses at the hands of government-approved caretakers, a Senate investigation has found.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...33a4d31bcc8_story.html?utm_term=.b120ae9401a1
     
  4. bx4

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    Did you miss the part of my post where I said the current administration's policy was to ACTIVELY separate children from their families?

    Your article - which is very short on specifics and timing of when things happened - indicated that under Obama, the approach was to remove the male adult(s). Not that the children would be removed from both parents.

    Your article concluded:

    "Because of Homeland Security’s dismissal of the need for accountability, it’s unclear exactly how many children were separated from their families under this Obama-era policy.

    To be clear: the Obama administration’s use of ATEP wasn’t intended to break-up families–that was an expected side effect–while Trump’s recently-confirmed policy is expressly directed toward that end in the name of “deterrence.”"

    So maybe children were removed from their families under the Obama administration, but that was not the purpose of the policy. It IS the purpose behind Trump's policy.

    He owns this.
     
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    so when is Obama going to own this? where was your outrage then?
    your selective outrage and double standard strips away any moral authority you thought you had

    Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says
    The Obama administration failed to protect thousands of Central American children who have flooded across the U.S. border since 2011, leaving them vulnerable to traffickers and to abuses at the hands of government-approved caretakers, a Senate investigation has found.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?utm_term=.b120ae9401a1
     
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  6. ThorInc

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    See post #87........
    Asked and answered; you simply can't handle the answer.
     
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    Kids are remanded to juvenile detention facilities while awaiting trial. The same facilities that house juveniles already convicted. US kids are detained while they make their way through court, just like illegal kids seeking asylum do. But US kids aren't treated nearly as graciously in detention facilities designed to punish juvenile offenders. Illegal kids aren't housed with violent juvenile offenders that prey upon the innocent either.
     
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    Exactly, there is no law just a Trump policy. Tks for confirming.
     
  9. zbr6

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    I asked you what law you were asking me for.

    What do you want to know?

    I will educate you, as I always do, but you have to tell me what you want to know first.
     
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    Actually, you could help a youth become a blameless whining victim. Now what law is Trump using to lock up migrant kids again?
     
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    They're not being locked up they're being placed under adult supervision because their parents are the ones being locked up.

    What are we supposed to do?

    Leave the kids in the desert?

    We don't put young children in adult prisons.

    The law that makes it so would be the 8th Amendment.

    Now that I've answered your question you can answer mine.

    What would you do with the kids when their invader parents are arrested for illegally invading the US?
     
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    Do you want these kids in adult detention centers yes or no?
     
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    I asked you a question - do you support this administration's policy of actively separating children for their families?

    It is a new policy. Do you support it?
     
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    Do.. you.... want.... these.. kids.. in.. the .... same.,... adult.. detention.... centers....as..... their.... parents......

    Yes or no.

    I want these adults to immigrate here LEGALLY and then they can bring there kids LEGALLY therefore NOT SEPERATING FAMILIES>>


    What is it with Progressive loons that can not understand LEGAL immigration.
     
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    Build the wall.

    Then the rest is negotiable.
     
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    You can't house children in adult federal detention facilities. Case Law.
     
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    Libs refuse to acknowledge there is a difference between legal and illegal immigration.
     
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    Libs aren't asking for the illegal adults and kids to be incarcerated together. They want all of them to be set free, to roam the U.S.
     
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    Like Obama did and of course they don't show up for their court date.
     
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    Trump's sycophants do not care that he lies. In fact they believe his lies to be "truth".
     
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    I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

    Until now, previous presidents have NOT separated kids from their parents in these situations. Until now, THIS president has not separated kids from their parents in these situations.

    This administration now has the policy of separating kids from their parents.

    Do you support this administration's new policy of actively separating kids from their parents?
     
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    Yes up until now they used "catch and release" and hoped these people would bother to show up to court... Trump is actually following immigration law.. Imagine that. Kids being separated from their families is the fault or caused by those breaking the law.. Hard concept for Progressives to understand.

    Your question completely lacks any context to the issue its meant as an emotional trigger and nothing else. Its why you and the D's on Congress keep spamming it while insanely saying we have "Concentration camps"!
     
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    I'm going to guess you are speaking about Cruz's parents if you have an issue with them by all means push for prosecution!
     
  25. Yulee

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    Speaking in generalities.

    Wet feet, Dry feet. Path to residency and voting in 1 year. Republicans like immigrants who vote for them just as the Dems do too.

    And yes I know Obama ended that policy. My point stands.
     

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