Is There Any Point to a Trump-Putin Meeting for Now?

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  1. Striped Horse

    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    Alastair Crooke analyses Trump's policies and decisions and concludes that he is seeking to reclaim the glory years of American unipolar power and financial dominance by driving a wedge between China and Russia (the Kissinger strategy).

    He also concludes that Trump's policies are doomed to fail; that China and Russia will not change their own strategy and the multipolarism is the future.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/n...re-any-point-trump-putin-meeting-for-now.html
     
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    First....I find it implausible at best that trump has ANY sort of plan in mind. He is, in my opinion of course, simply a megalomaniac placed in the most powerful position in the world and is floundering about like a kitten with scotch tape on his foot. Unfortunately, he is too dumb to realize it's tape and not a conspiracy of journalists and governmental departments that are haranguing him. He's doomed to go down in a conflagration, leaving his supporters ready for bloody insurrection. We'd be well advised to be aware of this and take steps to mitigate the damage done by the unthinking lemmings that conflate trump being unveiled as not wearing clothes and a liberal civil war.
     
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    I completely understand. I don't like him either.

    But states rarely are run by the diktats of one man - they are usually run by an elite consensus - which is why the CFR has been such an important and powerful entity over the decades.

    In the case of Trump and the present Administration it is pretty clear that that normal consensus is completely divided and why US foreign policy is now schizophrenic. Hence the open warfare and vicious public infighting we have seen these past 18 months or so.

    I regard this open warfare split between elite American factions as a symptom of the ongoing shift away from American economic and military primacy. I felt Crooke had summed this up very well and it struck me as being very likely true. That, of course, doesn't mean it come to pass.

    Having said that I can't see how the US dollar system will survive the tectonic changes taking place in the world and suspect that multipolarism is here to stay.
     
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    That's a well-conceived and executed reply, SH. I agree that most states, and especially ouurs due to the insight of the drafters of the Constitution, are crafted in such a way as to mitigate the powers of any one influence. My issue, at this point, is that trump (my childish manner of showing disrespect by not capitalizing) seems to be doing everything within his personal view that the position he holds is dictator or monarchist. He is separating everyone from his appointments to his common constituency. Sounds an awful lot like divide and conquer to me. While I give him little credit for actual awareness of a cohesive plan, he has an innate reactionary instinct, perhaps gleaned from under his father's wing, to appeal to the crass, biased, and fearful by making a completely unfounded show of strength and confidence with which to comfort them. The economy and his isolationist tendencies are a matter for a different rant. As you'll find if we communicate often, I have the curse of loquaciousness. I relate to James Michener who said he learned to write by working for Reader's Digest and getting paid by the word!!! LOL
     
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    Always good to keep channels of communication open and to meet and discuss.
     
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    If the communication is sincere. What do you think the chances are, going by past history, that Kim and Putin are operating from a sincere perspective, Joseph?
     
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    There is no reason for a meeting between Putinka and Trump. There is nothing to discuss except Putinka's withdrawal from Syria and Ukraine and the little man isn't likely to want to do that.
     
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    Be fair. A meeting between Donnie and Vlad would be the perfect cover for Vlad to pass his puppet more orders and figure out how to mess with more US elections.
     
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    Pretty good this time. Kim knows the parties over and Trump won't play his games
     

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