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Unarmed teen shot three times and killed while running from police in East Pittsburgh

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  1. excalibur26

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    As SCOTUS has ruled they may do in these circumstances.
     
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    They love them some Venezuela. Bernie Sanders was touting it a few years ago.
     
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    If they feel that that person is a danger to them or the public they are justified. Per SCOTUS.

    Also, many states have laws permitting this action.
     
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    They don't fool anyone. not anymore. not since their Messiah overreached and let everyone know what leftists and leftism are really all about.
     
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    They should know that they run the risk of being shot in the back by the police, because the problem has not been solved; and that is why they #TakeAKnee during the National Anthem.

    The word not getting out - are they playing stupid, or what???
     
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    5th amendment

    Amendment V
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    because they are.
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    thank you for acknowledging that.

    So again........... What part of unarmed, facing the opposite direction and moving away from you are you having trouble understanding?
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    That is illegal. You can't shoot an unarmed suspect in the back as they are fleeing.
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    Unarmed suspect, facing opposite direction, running in opposite direction. Bad shoot. You can't kill someone who poses no danger to you, or surrounding bystanders.
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    They should have

    They are required to be in immanent danger, or protecting someone from immanent danger, in order to use lethal force.
    To arrest, absolutely. To shoot in the back and execute them? absolutely not.

    Yes, you are way off.
     
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    Wrong again leaving out the pertinent facts.
     
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    Yes it is how it works. The car matched the description and even had bullet holes in the back window. That's probable cause the persons inside had just tried to kill someone.
     
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    How? The suspect fled.


    Nope TN v Gardner

    It is probable cause to take into custody or stop their fleeing as they are a threat to the community.

    Yes, you are way off.
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2018
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    You get that after you submit to the arrest.
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2018
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    I can't unless I have a reasonable expectation the person is only fleeing for cover so they can try to kill me. Police can if they have probable cause the person fleeing is a violent threat to the community.
     
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    If we have the presumption of innocence before the trail then we certainly have it before the arrest. Imminent danger is probable cause to shoot someone, not suspicion of an earlier crime.
     
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    At the police academy we were asked "Would you shoot someone in the back?" to which the common answer was "No"
    "Now imagine that someone is kneeling down facing away from you and aiming a rocket launcher at an aircraft on a runway, would you shoot them in the back?"
    The answer changed very quickly to yes.
     
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    It doesn't have to be imminent at that point the police had probable cause the suspects in the car had ALREADY just tried to kill someone on a violent shootout on a public street. They were a threat to the community

    Its called consciousness of guilt.

    Its their job to stop violent criminals from threatening the community.

    You first have to submit yourself to it to first.
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2018
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    PROBABLE CAUSE
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2018
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    nope. I included all the facts. unarmed, shot in the back. cant do that
     
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    required to be under immanent threat of harm to use lethal force


    nope..............
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/case.html
    but not to use lethal force

    nope
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    as well as before. cant kill someone in the manner these officers did
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    they had no cause to think that here
     
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    awesome. not relevant in any way though
     
    rahl, Jun 21, 2018
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    doesn't apply here
     
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