Pro-Life? Adopt a kid!!!

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    UH, NO, the left do NOT NEED to use an excuse for abortion....it is the woman's right for ANY reason she chooses.

    Women do NOT need an EXCUSE to get an abortion....
     
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    Liberals say illegals lives are precious and we need to save them, but they don't want to take care of them.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh huh.
     
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    Don't know your stats do you?

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

    Note too how many are living under or just above the poverty level
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that none of those stats show they were using birth control when they got pregnant, except for your last one.

    Of the 24% using condoms, were they using them like rubber bands?
     
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    Who said so?
     
  7. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    UH, NO, the left do NOT NEED to use an excuse for abortion....it is the woman's right for ANY reason she chooses.

    Women do NOT need an EXCUSE to get an abortion....




    So you agree...good.
     
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    WTF difference does it make?

    NO one is obliged to use birth control in any form.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is obliged to protect you from your stupid decisions either.
     
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    Those who profess to so honor life as to oppose women having choice over their bodily functions should logically refuse to pay taxes for a war machine that kills civilians.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    WTF difference does it make?

    NO one is obliged to use birth control in any form.


    Good, you agree with me again that no one is obligated to use birth control...
     
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    No that is the reported failure rate for condoms. Even YOUR link confirms that
     
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    Actually, using a condom correctly is about 98% effective.
     
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    WTF has that got to do with rights?

    What has it got to do with those who are actively fighting to deny women the rights everyone else has and NOT being willing to take care of the ensuing children?
     
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    What? No one wants to take your rights away, we just want some common sense regulations.
     
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    Promote personal responsibility.
     
  17. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    WTF has that got to do with rights?

    What has it got to do with those who are actively fighting to deny women the rights everyone else has and NOT being willing to take care of the ensuing children?






    It looks like you still don't know what the squiggly thing is at the end of a sentence. It's a question mark denoting a question....

    Or, you can't seem to answer inconvenient questions:)


    Banning abortion IS taking away a pregnant woman's right to her own body, you cannot HONESTLY spin it any other way....


    And there are regulations....
     
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    My solution is to make her responsible for her decisions. If she chooses to remain single and give birth, then rock it out, but don't expect me to subsidize your choices. Additionally, when the child has behavior issues or problems later in life that are synonymous with children born in single mother households, don't blame anyone but her.
     
  19. FoxHastings

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    And how do you propose we do that?


    Don't you think that since humans have been around for thousands of years somebody hasn't thought of that already ?

    You may promote it, but you can't FORCE it.....and YOUR idea of "responsibility" may not be someone else's...
     
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    I did answer your questions. I do not wish anyone to be forced to do anything. I figure the natural order of things will provide enough force.
     
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    Of course I don’t value money more than life. I’m not going to take from my kids to raise someone else’s kids. I didn’t have kids until I could afford them. That doesn’t make me better than someone. That makes me more responsible for my decisions.

    You glossed over my military point. The op says I’m a hypocrite for being pro life and not adopting. I applied that same logic to military service.

    Everyone that joins the military puts their life on the line. They have no guarantees of their safety for years of their life. I still work on military bases. I make much better money as a civilian and can change jobs any time I want. Yes, I’m proud of my service and I worked long hours fixing jets and lost a good portion of my hearing because of it. I also finished my education got great job experience in the military. I’d do it again, but it’s not for everyone and I respect their decisions.
     
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    Nope. We should make rational choices to avoid single parent households. Additionally, if you stopped forcing others to mitigate the negative effects of single motherhood, the occurrences of single motherhood/absentee fathers would greatly reduce.
     
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    Good luck with that
     
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    You might want to take a look at the question I responded to, which wasn't you, and was specifically about what the person I responded to said.

    No no, banning abortion is just common sense life control.
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    You mean FORCE women to marry ?






    THIS is YOUR post :
    freakonature said:
    We should do everything we can outside of killing viable fetuses to eliminate single motherhood."""
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    The next logical questions are : How? and Why?

    If a woman chooses to stay single and give birth would you throw her in jail or force her to marry?


    What is YOUR solution????




    DUHHHHHHHHH, if there is only one "choice" it isn't a choice....look up the word CHOICE...it implies more than one.

    If she's forced to give birth she has every right to expect aid from the government that took away her CHOICE.






    ANY child may develop behavior problems even kids with a daddy...


    How do you FORCE someone to be responsible? If we could I think humans would all be responsible by now!! And they're not.

    Women do not expect you to subsidize their choices, BUT the government does have a responsibility to care for it's people and that includes CHILDREN,.
     

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