Findings that Russia meddled to help Trump beat Clinton were 'accurate and on point': Senate intel

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  1. Grokmaster

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    You are ignorant of their complaint clearly. They are upset that they can no longer DEDUCT THEIR EXCESSIVE "BLUE" STATE TAXES from their Federal tax bill; IOW, they can no linger force the rest of us to SUBSIDIZE their excessive taxation of their own citizens. That is how it "affected Blue States".

    And?
     
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    Projecting.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? You sure you want to keep trying that LIE?

    DO I need to post all the PROVEN Obama Putin-asskissings again, INCLUDING, but NOT LIMITED TO, the "STAND DOWN ORDER" he gave to prevent US Intel from countermanding the Russian meddling?
     
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    Ergo, the GOP and Trump have subsidized Red POOR states through the Blue RICH states federally.......GOP welfare and pay off for votes.
     
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    Painful Desperation.
     
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  6. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Ironic.
     
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    Defeated.................badly.
     
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    Stop acting like the limited meddling of russians of the last election affected anything. It didn't It was like an ant crawling up an elephant's leg screaming rape!! Completely useless and irrelevant.
    Trying to make it actually relevant to the election is ignorance being protected by stupidity.
     
  9. PrincipleInvestment

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    You can't debunk what I posted.
     
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    Your post debunked itself, it's 2018.
     
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    wonder why obama allowed this
     
  12. PrincipleInvestment

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    Don't be afraid of the truth.
     
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    Advice that you should heed. ;)
     
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    Danth's Law
     
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    Nunes and Grassley will show you the light. AG Horowitz already has.
     
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    Yes, since it a truth disbelieved only by deluded Trump worshippers. But if you have any evidence that Trump has done anything to prevent Russian meddling in the next election feel free to post it.
     
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    What's idiocy of the highest caliber is allowing foreign nations to interfere in our electoral process, giving them the same freedom of speech and expression as enjoyed by our own people.

    You and the rest of the right wing noise brigade are spewing hypocrisy of the highest caliber.
     
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    You’re right.... but it’s hard to be on a high horse when we do and have done the same things. We really don’t have a leg to stand on when being outraged about it.

    I wish it would stop.... but that’s global politics for you.
     
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    I'm against all of it. My tax dollars should not be going to influencing overthrows in foreign nations.

    I despise it.
     
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    The only lying jackass was Trump who claimed the meddling didn't occur. And here is a relevent quote from your link in case you didn't actually read the article:


    " Instead, Obama officials chose another course of action after becoming frustrated that Republican leaders on Capitol Hill would not endorse a bipartisan statement condemning Russian interference and fearful that any unilateral action by them would feed then candidate Donald Trump’s claims that the election was rigged. They chose a private “stern” warning by Obama to Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in China in early September 2016 to stop his country’s campaign to disrupt the U.S. election."
     
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    What? Sometimes I think your having an argument in your head and think I'm the other voice in there. I never said that there was no trade imbalance. I said nothings changed since Obama was in office.

    https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

    US China Goods Trade Balance - 2018 | -357Billion
    US China Goods Trade Balance - 2015 | -367Billion


    I forgot, in your world an 8billion dollar goods surplus is somehow 'getting screwed'.

    Hey, go figure. It's almost like I said he did some good and some bad. Crazy talk.

    I also enjoyed it when he tried to use a Conservative method of health care to help people stop going bankrupt simply because they had the temerity to get sick and be unable to afford treatment. I also loved it when he pushed for the CFPB to help people against the companies trying to screw them. I also loved it when he pushed to force financial advisors to have a fiduciary interest in giving the advice that will best suit the customer, rather then whatever gets them the most fees. Increased Pell Grants, DoddFrank, Reduced participation in Iraq and Afghanistan, Oversaw the death of Osama Bin Laden, Turned around the Auto Industry, repealed Don'tAskDon'tTell, Improved Fuel Efficiency Standards, Improved Clean Air and Water Standards, put Tobacco Oversight to the FDA, Cracked down on for-profit colleges, etc...etc..

    To be fair, I also hated his expansion of the Drone program, extra-judicial killing of an American Citizen (terrorist or not), Took out Ghaddafi and supported the Arab Spring which started the war in Syria and Govt changes in Egypt and elsewhere, didn't close Guantanamo outright, didnt' fight the republicans hard enough when it became obvious that nothing he did would ever get support from the Right beyond McCain and Snowe, etc...etc..

    I'm sure many do, but I'm also sure most don't see me as a 'Leftist' as you do. I can count a few of the major conservative members here who I enjoy dialogue with and respect, and is mutually reciprocated.

    You can search away. I'm Left of Center by international political measurement (which means i'm a crazy lefty to the US). I agree that the US govt has every right to close its boarders to whomever it decides to (though I believe you can still treat them humanely as you send them back out the door). I think that gun control as it's viewed by the US to very ineffective and an issue that the Left should drop because most have no clue about guns, different makes/models etc, I think that Public Unions have an inherent conflict of interest because of their voting power, but I also think that Govt employees should have a level of power so that their job security doesn't become unstable every 4 years.


    Ha. Fair play. We have tariffs on our Dairy products (the major sticking point in NAFTA after the Problem Settlement process) because the US massively subsidizes it's agricultural (and thus Dairy) sector to the point where were would get flooded by US Dairy products and our producers would be out of business. Remove the subsidies that uneven the playing field and then we can talk about 'fair'.
     
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    Asked and answered, many times over.
     
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    Horo found no scandal period........reach further, don't tip ;)
     
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    Amen.

    And, we have a president who has done NOTHING to slow their assault on our democracy!!

    To date, NO agency has been chartered with working on preventing foreign assault on our democracy.

    Now, Republican (only) congressmen went to Russia and actually forgave Russia for their interference.

    Trump IS the Manchurian candidate.

    I don't know exactly what Putin has on Trump, but it sure the heck is working.
     
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    Yep, Putin owns Trump, it's obvious to any critical thinker.
     

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