U.S. threatens nation over world breastfeeding resolution, shocking health officials

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  1. ocean515

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    LOL

    Ok, let's see.

    On page 13 of the overriding study backing the resolution, what was statement about initial time period?

    If that's a stretch for you, what did the resolution say about time periods?
     
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    First, the US was not objecting or trying to alter the "overriding study backing the resoltuion." So do you have an argument to make? Then make the argument.
     
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    Haley is a disgusting creature.

    If something doesn’t make sense, money is involved. Clearly these companies make profit from formula use. What’s disgusting is that it’s at the detriment of infants.

    There is absolutely no comparison. Breast feeding is unequivocally better than formula. There should be absolutely no reason why anyone should NOT promote breast feeding. Aside from nutrition, there’s antibody transmission and many other physiological benefits to breast feeding.

    No company can beat the boob. Even in a malnourished country, infants will be healthier if they can get at least some breast milk, even if it’s just a fraction of their diet. As suc, promoting breastfeeding SHOULD BE EVERY COUNTRY’s stance.

    If it doesn’t make sense, it’s because someone stands to profit. Haley is a puppet.
     
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    “Caitlin Oakley, the national spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services, the lead agency in negotiations on the resolution, said the U.S. opposition to the measure was not based on an ‘anti-breastfeeding’ position.

    “‘Recent reporting attempts to portray the U.S. position at the recent World Health Assembly as 'anti-breastfeeding' are patently false,’ she said in a statement. ‘The United States has a long history of supporting mothers and breastfeeding around the world and is the largest bilateral donor of such foreign assistance programs. The issues being debated, were not about whether one supports breastfeeding.’

    "’The United States was fighting to protect women's abilities to make the best choices for the nutrition of their babies. Many women are not able to breastfeed for a variety of reasons, these women should not be stigmatized; they should be equally supported with information and access to alternatives for the health of themselves and their babies.’”

    https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....to-fight-breast-feeding-resolution-report?amp

    Sounds like a pretty weak defense of our actions, but why not just say that at the UN? What’s so hard about saying “we’re not against the spirit of the resolution, we just don’t want it to make some women feel sad”?
     
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    Yeah...the Truth is a "weak argument".
     
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    But thats not the truth :

    American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/health/world-health-breastfeeding-ecuador-trump.html
     
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    I understand your point, agree with Oakley’s overall message (as a husband to a woman who couldn’t breastfeed and was very distraught about it), and will even concede that there are many contexts wherein this argument would be strong.

    I’m talking specifically about this context, though; I mean when it’s used in defense of threatening nations with loss of military protections—that’s weak.
     
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    And without being able to see the resolution, it’s impossible to know for sure if such changes don’t coincide with our stated goals. It’s very possible, depending on the wording, that some of it did put unnecessary burdens on some women.

    I’m not much at all against discussing changes in the resolution designed to reflect the fact that some women need formula. I just don’t support this tactic when it’s used to defy breastfeeding... really?
     
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    Russia supported it and eventually it got accepted as it was

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/09/health/breastfeeding-resolution-explainer/index.html

    Well if I read the objections correcltly nor the presure they used that didnt seem to be the issue.

    Not really an idea why this sudden change from the US occured I do remember trump being disgusted by it but I doubt he had a direct hand in this.
     
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    GASP!! Breastfeeding needs "international support"!!

    I didn't realize that it is "endangered".

    Seriously?

    This is by far the MOST RIDICULOUS THREAD OF THE WEEK....further proof that there IS NO PART OF LIFE that the left will not try to place under GOVERNMENT RULE....
     
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    Authoritarian? We're not required to give aid to anyone.
     
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    "Do as you are told" ain't authoratarian at all eh? Funny guy.
     
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    Strawman of course
    But yes it does need support, you either have no clue about what happens in the world or this is simply not according to whatever ideology you subscribe too .
     
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    It would be the requirement to restrict advertising for formula that is the rub.
    Restricting speech? No go.
     
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    They were given a choice. They're free to do whatever they'd like.
     
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    I did. This is nothing more than an attempt to outrage the easily outraged. You are to immediately forward, share, and start threads without doing any research. By the time people figure out it was a lie, the purpose is already served. Nice work.
     
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    If the NY Times report is a lie, then prove it.
     
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    Because they added the words "The NY times reported" it is actually the truth. They did in fact report that misleading piece.

    You are to be outraged, and forward this to everyone in your address book, share it, start a thread, shake your fist, carry a sign, and tow that line.

    How about forcing women to breastfeed by only allowing formula when they are not able to lactate? Those silly women shouldn't have to make such choices!
     
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    Which ones WHO or US?
     
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    Oh really? How was breastfeeding accomplished before MEGA-GOVERNMENT leftists passed a "resolution"?

    I mean, since it "needs support".

    Mothers worldwide would have never figured it out without the "All-Important Resolution".

    Glory Be for the UN RESOLUTION ON BOOBS !!

    Cannot buy comedy this good.
     
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    Take a deep breath, no need to get so wound up over this.

    There was quite a while that formula feeding was recomended, still some misconceptons about that out there.
    Correcting that has nothing to do with "MEGA-GOVERNMENT leftists"
     
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    You claimed you read the resolution.

    If you did, the answer to my question would be simple, and it strikes to the heart of the US position.

    I'm attempting to see if your claim about reading it was true.

    If it was not true, and was the opposite, I'm not interested in wasting any time discussing something you know nothing about.
     
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