What is the bottom line why Socialism is really being pushed around the globe?

Really.

As long as I'm making more, it's no skin off my nose that someone else is really knocking it dead, I say "More Power to them!" And that's a common response from the American Electorate, which is why your dogma of envy has never taken hold in this nation. We are please when other folks do very well and not bitterly jealous like "progressives" expect.

 

With a link provided, and the quote properly set off, Einstein!

Bernie Sanders, take note: Venezuela's non-oil exports per capita skid below Haiti's.

Anyone need another round of proof that socialism fails? Yo, Bernie? Alexandria?

Take a look at this AVEX/Wikipedia chart showing where socialist Venezuela ranks on the exports per capita front:



https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...oil_exports_per_capita_skid_below_haitis.html

 

Nothing .. you guys REALLY need nationalised free healthcare - urgently.

But in the meantime, your other points may be a misfire. Consider that the 'socialist democracies' of Northern Europe (Scandinavia etc) grew in small population monocultures. EVERYONE was entirely aligned in culture, attitude, race, ethnicity, language, religion, hopes for the nation, etc etc etc etc. America is nothing like that - perhaps never has been.

 

The "progressive" base loves her.

 

Socialism, like Communism, depends upon every 'able bodied' adult pulling their weight.

Do you suppose today's American is likely to accept that? Norwegians et al did, in the 20thC.

 

No more than any other system.

 

There is no real distinction between "progressives" Democrats and Socialists

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Goes Full Commie Dictator: Announces ‘New Rule’ Barring Trump Tax Cut Supporters From Healthcare Debate

 

We DO have nationalized free healthcare - called Medicare. But, it is pretty much limited to old folks. After that, we have Medicaid (for seriously poor people) and we have another system for those who have served in the military!!

We have all sorts of systems - just none that covers most working Americans!! (How did we miss THAT??)

So, I agree that it's long since time that we came up with a single system for America.

Northern Europe is not socialist, obviously. A quick read of the definition gets that out of the way.

And, I don't see our diversity as some sort of excuse. In point of fact, our diversity is a strength. We are who we are BECAUSE of diversity.

 

Imo socialism is popular in third world countries because it's a good fairytale. People are sold this fantasy that everyone will be equal and everyone will have enough. A fascist is the one who stabs you in the front, a communist is the one who sells you a dream then stabs you in the back.

 

Norway is a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy.

Trump loves his dictators - even those who commit heinous humanitarian atrocities.

But I don't believe he'll sell America on being a monarchy.

 

Your cut and pasted didn't mean anything AT ALL - let alone not being relevant to the thread.

 

The power elite has always dreamed of "concentrate power". A one world order....the setting for the Anti-Christ.

 

We sell the same fairytale.

In fact, we sell the idea that anyone can be a millionaire!!

Then, they find out they can't get healthcare.

 

I don't share your "Anti-Christ" religion fear.

What's going on is more driven by the US 1% wanting free trade, access to cheap labor and resources and the stability that big investors need for building their business investment plans.

 

I'm Canadian dude. We're not a socialist country, we're a capitalist free market society with more robust social safety services than the US. Same for other western countries.

Don't even think about comparing the lifestyle of people living in third world countries where people literally starve to death to people living in the west. We're NOT the same. The western world is a utopia compared to what most of the world lives in. And I don't want to hear about how the western world is so horrible compared to your fantasy fever dream utopian society that doesn't exist.

 

Dude, I wasn't attacking you.

I fully agree Canada is not a socialist country. It has somewhat socialized medicine, but that doesn't mean its government is socialist.

And, I pointed out that the American system is a hodgepodge of nonsense that manages to avoid serving the majority of the population - the ones who work for a living!!!

As for your last sentence, I strongly suspect you thought I was someone else.

I do stand behind the fact that America does sell the idea that anyone can be a millionaire.

And, healthcare here is often a slap in the face by cold reality.

 

What you call the Anti-Christ religion fear is merely a reflection of history and human nature. Sure some of the elements are found in what you said but the Big Picture and where we are going results in what I have described. There is an end to it all.

 

REALLY? Socialism isn't about everyone being equal. They must be dumb or maybe brainwashed.

 

LOL You think billionaire George Soros is a communist? Your mental gymnastics are impressive.

Globalization has been driven by capitalism and has been a major economic boon for the countries involved.

What do you think socialism and communism are exactly?

 

I agree that the lure of socialism is the "utopia" that will "be created" where "poverty will vanish." Socialism apparently removes competition and there would be no more "winners" and no more "losers." Sounds good, but when we start digging deeper into exactly how any "new version of socialism" will work, it starts falling apart. To gain this newfound "security for the individual," freedom for the individual would necessarily be lost. Some sort of powerful authority would have to exist to control the new socialized economy to keep things in line and functioning within the dictates of the system. The central authority would have to control where one could work, determine the value of an individual's labor, manage who can make what and how much of it to make, and control how much it would cost.

Some might disagree on the above and claim there wouldn't have to be a powerful economic authority directing things, but I think they would be wrong. Because if an economic system provides freedom from the above restraints, we are obviously talking about free market capitalism, not socialism.

I think that many who claim to want socialism actually don't really want socialism. What they really want is a free market system with a very progressive tax system, where money is taken from the productive members and redistributed to the non-productive.

 

the short answer, the dearth of all innovation.

If you want me to utterly destroy all arguments for socialism I can.

 

Because globalism is a business activity, not a political one.

 

I disagree. Globalism is a big political issue. Just look at all the press over donald's trade war.

But again, this has nothing to do with what I posted.

 

VZ was a Bananna Republic for most of its history.. After oil was discovered in 1915, it became a country where a a small elite had all the money and nothing was reinvested in the people..

You might want to READ the history of Venezuela.

 

Remember when Trump asked WHY Norwegians aren't immigrating to the US? Now you know, but I doubt he does.