What is the bottom line why Socialism is really being pushed around the globe?

Well good. I had the impression you were 'accommodating' people who refuse to speak English .. via official and commercial provision of alternatives. If that's not so, I apologise.

Culture should ALWAYS be a concern. It's essential to survival of the very culture which attracted all those diverse peoples in the first place. Just as a family depends upon each member valuing it to the same degree, and behaving according to the same values, so does a nation.

There is rarely any impediment from white folk in regards to integration. White people are the most culturally 'lax' on planet earth, and embrace anyone will to give their way (such as it is) a shot. You will find the polar opposite in people of colour. Many are strongly opposed to white people 'appropriating' their culture.

As for African Americans getting into constant trouble with the law .. that is extremely unlikely to have anything to do with skin tone. If it were, you would see Indian Americans, and even American Africans, experiencing the same thing. You don't.

You've put the cart before the horse. It's only those groups who won't integrate who are experiencing these negative events. Chinese and Indian Americans have no such troubles. Why? Because they INTEGRATE. Demonstrating a willingness to integrate must come first. That is done most easily by learning the language, and by living good, clean, decent, hard working and honourable lives - according to the American preference.

 

No clue how you extrapolated that.

I live in a nation with nationalised healthcare, and we're only 'slightly' socialist (Scandinavia style).

 

Can you point to cases of socialism coming up as an option for America?

 

They have not now, nor ever been, 'robbed' of community and family. They have simply had the misfortune to be born into families which hold no especial allegiance to each other, and/or have rejected community ties (which come with obligation and responsibility) in favour of 'free expression of self'.

ANYONE can have family and community in the 21stC. All it takes is what it took in 1950. Stability, responsibility, conformity, constancy.

 

A perfect example of capitalism.

 

What a load, there is a big difference between a communist and a Christian social democrat.

 

Of COURSE we accommodate people. What's wrong with that?

Free market capitalism certainly does not depend on people evaluating things in the same way, so you aren't talking about economics.

We have differences on many other aspects of life. I'm not sure I know of some sort of base set of cultural norms that are so fundamental to America that we could crumble if people disagreed.

Well, I don't know what you mean by "white people", but America has serious problems when it comes to accepting others who are not exactly like themselves, right down to skin color. And, you're clearly unaware of acceptance of skin color in America. Your "only those who don't integrate" is absolute garbage! And, your "American Africans" thing is also just plain ignorance of the situation in America.

No American of color has a PRAYER of living long enough to be treated as equal REGARDLESS of what all other Americans of color might do.

Like I said, we get people being reported to the police for unlocking and entering their own car, for swimming in their swimming pool, or doing those things that EVERYONE OF OUR CULTURE does.

 

And 90% of the manufacturing of the world destroyed by war in the 1940's.

 

What happened to the whites? The Asians are kicking their asses in income...

 

a) anyone who voluntarily migrates to your nation, should accommodate YOU, not the other way around. it's absurd to spend money on accommodating people who wilfully refuse to learn English.

b) I know full well that white people are the least racist, and the most open to 'cultural appropriation' on planet earth. If you think otherwise, you clearly haven't travelled enough. And once again, Indian and Chinese Americans are not being harassed by police. Your argument on this fails.

c) You must not be aware that the group currently at the top of American stats on 'success' are not white. But you're right, they're not being treated as equals. It's harder for them to enter university. Yet they still get in, and they still beat whitey to a pulp.

d) So Indian and Chinese Americans are being reported for unlocking their own cars?

 

Well wait a second... don't go moving the field goals.

Norway is this iconic social republic utopia to you lefties.

Why is there any inequality?

 

Any could we try to achieve equality?

Who ever told you the world was fair or everybody is equal? They aren't.

What you are essentially asking is... how can we make all baseball players equal in terms of skill to make things more fair?

We shouldn't.

We are guaranteed equal opportunity, not outcomes. Wealth and income is an outcome, the opportunity exists for everybody. That is all we should ever provide.

 

I could care less. I'm happy that they are happy where they are at. The Swiss are happiest in Switzerland. What a concept!

 

The "progressive" State Department weenies? WTH do they know?

 

Blah. Blah. Blah.

 

There aren't any. The drive for it has reasonable explanations especially given the absurd nature of capitalism

 

No, we are not benefited by making it hard for people who come here. We are benefited by helping them.

There is NOTHING special about skin color, so you totally lost me at word 8 of this paragraph.

Wow - you just have no end to your excuses for racism.

 

This is a MAJOR misunderstanding on your part.

Somehow, you thought our civil rights laws, our 14th amendment, etc. were about outcomes.

But, you are wrong, so anything coming from that mistake of yours is undoubtedly wrong as well.

 

... and the DoD weenies. What the heck do they know - you might ask!

We've helped many nations establish new governments.

We do not give them ours.

Do you know why?

 

Good - you said something about socialism coming up.

I think I see what you mean now. Young people today are in a tough position.

 

because the weak imagine they are real.

 

No... I said they were about OPPORTUNITY.

Equal opportunity is what we should strive for... not equal outcomes as desired by the left.

 

There are various goals, of course.

But, you are mistaken here.

The left is interested in equal OPPORTUNITY, NOT equal outcomes.

Obviously, outcomes will be more equal if we progress toward equal opportunity.

 

I don't think they will, too be completely honest.

As in my baseball analogy; not everybody has the same skill level. Some are naturally better ball players, so practice harder, some get lucky and get noticed by a scout.

My biggest issue is the inability for some political agendas to realize the you can't equalize ability. Opportunity, yes. Everybody had the opportunity to be a professional baseball player, that doesn't mean they have the ability.

People's abilities are gauged against their peers.

In our society, some people will always be impoverished. Even with equal opportunity. We can't change ability, nor can we guarantee outcomes.

Now, who in this country doesn't have equal opportunity?

 

I agree that outcomes will not be equal. There are those with serious inequalities in various departments, there are lots of places for chance to enter in.

But, discrimination based on gender, etc., gerrymandering, police policy, tax policy, labor policy, etc. all include barriers that WE put in place.

They may be overcome by some, but they push FOR unequal opportunity and thus increase the number of unequal outcomes.

When we break these barriers of unequal opportunity, we all win.