Julian Assange Scores Major Legal Victory as Court Orders Safe Passage of Wikileaks Founder Out of E

It is if they have to get past an Ecuadorian security detail. Sure, they CAN arrest them if they want. Might not go over so well though.

 

Dude doesn't have diplomatic immunity, they don't have the right to open fire on Brit cops trying to arrest him.
They don't need to arrest the detail (who have diplomatic immunity and would simply be sent back to Ecuador in most cases) just separate assange from them. Seeing as how the detail is going to be 5-10 people, perhaps armed with pistols maybe subguns or carbines, against potentially all of London's armed response teams in battle rattle what exactly is the Ecuadorian detail going to do? Martyr themselves for a foreigner who is a "citizen" of their nation to avoid extradition? I think not.

If britbongistan does light them up: What the **** is ECUADOR going to do?

 

Following orders is not acceptable.

Remember the Nuremberg Trials.​

agents should not be involved with nefarious behavior regardless of orders!
believes in Personal Responsibility. Not Nazism.
Agree @Gatewood ?


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I just said they can do that if they want to create an incident.

It puts more consideration on the table than if they just opened the door and kicked Assange outside.

 

Lighting them up would make an incident, stopping them on their sovereign soil and the ecudorian team saying "sorry bud can't do **** because our diplo status doesn't extend to you, you're just some ******* under international law and most particularly under UK law on whose sovereign territory we stand" won't do much but make a headline

 

The Brits might cooperate being glad to get rid of Assange.
Y'think.

Would like to see Ecuador send their 2 navy ships up the Thames,
Ecuador Marines disembark for the Ecuadorian embassy and escort Assange to safety.
Something like this but, hopefully more peaceful with the alternative of violence.

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The Wind and The Lion is a great movie if you haven't seen it.

 

1) ships of the line will not be allowed up the Thames to violate UK sovereignty. You're asking for them to get blown the **** out of the water by UK interdict.
2) Now you want to disembark foreign soldiers on sovereign territory to violate their laws. I'm sure that will go over well.

 

All well choreographed, diplomatically.

And gives the Brits an excuse of how they were caught off guard and could
do nothing but cooperate with Ecuador.

 

Ecuadorian embassy is not even a campound - it has no driveway, no private gated entry. Once Assange is out of the building he is on English soil, subject to UK laws.
I personally think Ecuador is growing tired of that guy. He was cut off from the internet several times. Ecuador starts to realize that this guy is a liability with no real benefit.

 

Ships going up theirs river without UK government being aware of them?
Whatever you smoke, it must be really good!

 

It is!



Plausible deniability has its' place.

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Of course it is more the place of Australia to do it,
than Ecuador.​

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@Thedimon - really, no need to reply if you just don't "get it". Would you know?



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Not our beloved and benevolent government!

 

Yes, this is what I love about Venezuela - all the main businesses are under
the control of the people - and staffed by people who know what they are
doing for the good of the people, ie Maduro's supporters.
When we start thinking that the allocation of resources, the stocking of our
supermarket shelves, the provision of our material benefits, the feeding or
our billions, the abundance of cheap and reliable energy etc is corrupt then
beggars the question - WHAT COUNTRY DO YOU WANT TO LIVE IN?
Please name that country, and your reasons for choosing it.
... and please, don't mention any Western, democratic and Capitalist nation.

 

But I like the Ecuadorians for sheltering Assange! For sure, there are many more people who feel the same way. That is a huge benefit!

 

Hopefully the Swedes will be outside the embassy to grab him when he comes out, to face the rape charges.

 

We are not static.
Mountains erode.
I don't want to become venezuela.
And please don't say this america, can't happen here.
Exposing corruption is good

 

Well it's good when you live in a country which can expose its corruption.
One study suggested 2-3% of the general population will behave in an
unethical way. Seems a small number, but in a church/senate/charity/etc
that number can make the news and give a misleading impression.
But... owning property, investing, mining, timber etc IS NOT CORRUPTION.
Claiming that Capitalism is corruption is itself a form of intellectual corruption.

You are in effect saying you are happy to live in a Capitalist country. If your
country becomes Socialist like Venezuela then you would change your mind.

 

Most end up in government

I did that?

no, I'd like to stop it before it does

 

Wrong, as usual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States

 

Assange's only crime was to tell the truth about the liars and crooks in government.

Naturally, the liars, crooks, and their apologists will do whatever they can to silence and punish Assange, even if it means committing a direct assault on freedom of the press.

 

Well, he is not press.

 

Freedom of the press refers to an activity, not to membership in an organization.

Anyone who participates in the activity is therefore protected under the first amendment.

 

Who does the 1st amendment apply to?

 

You are the one who is wrong and clueless.
The case you cite is about espionage laws.
I’m talking about intellectual property theft laws.
Totally different things.
Good luck to your Russian spy Assange fighting that.

 

Anyone engaged in the activity of printing and publication, as is necessarily implied by the term "freedom of the press".

At the time it was written, "the press" referred to the printing press, a tool that was used in the printing and publication of papers, pamphlets, etc.

There was never any notion that the protections of the first amendment would only be extended to members of an officially designated organization.