Did anybody change their mind today?

The logical extension of the 'you can't judge' philosophy? I agree. It's a nonsense argument.

 

Are you not a Brit? You should be more concern with Putin poisoning your countrymen instead focusing on Obama.

 

I'd give you 50 Likes for that if I could. An oasis of intelligence in a desert of (mostly) drivel.

 

American politics is 100% polarized.

Pro-American, Pro-USA history, Pro American values - Republican
Anti-American, anti USA history, anti USA values - Democratic

The world's global super rich are on the Democratic Party's side, who also own 85% of the American media and press now.

Blue collar, seniors, business and military are on the Republican Party's side. The Republican Party controls radio politics.

CNN, MSNBC and Fox combined do not reach 4% of the voters.

Google and Microsoft are 100% rich white liberals promoting child labor foreign sweatshops and cheap immigrant labor.

Trade union members now vote Republican for obvious reasons.

In the end, I believe it will be the NSA and CIA that will decide the election and believe they have been doing so for decades. Hilary Clinton's uncontrollable temper, her mental and emotional instability and her vowing she would order a no-fly zone over Syria is what caused them to switch from Clinton to Trump- which is why Comey trashed Clinton 10 days before the election.

It only took changing less than 1/2 of 1% in a few key states to give it to Trump.

There is an EXACT moment I knew the powers that really control this country would NEVER allow a Clinton presidency:

It was when the highest ranking officer of the American military was asked in Congress exactly what Hilary Clinton's promise to declare a no-fly zone of Syria - which had been in the Russian sphere for over half a century and the ONLY foreign military bases Russia has.

He replied it meant "War with Russia" and went on to say "The US military is not prepared to do so."

When I heard the head of our military say - as never before in US history - that the US military would defy a presidential order - from that moment on I said "Trump will be the next president. They will never allow Hilary Clinton." You can say who you think "They" are.

I do believe the election was meddled with - and decisively. It was by who most controls our government - the NSA. Clinton was not tolerable.

All they had to do then was block Trump's goal of detente' with Russia as they want the COLD WAR to last forever. However, only a brain damaged lunatic like Clinton would EVER speak of - let alone promise - to directly attack the Russian military. EVERYONE knows that means EVERYONE DIES.

Much was learned of the view of the Russian military and how it functions - including their view of the USA after the breakup of the USSR. Russia NEVER had a first strike plan against the USA - only retaliation plans. We 100% were wrong about Russia's placement of their boomers (ballistic missile submarines) and greatly underestimated Russia's retaliation abilities. The subs we tracked were deliberate noisy decoys. Their real boomers literally on the other side of the world. However, Russia truly believe the USA SO unstable we could engage in a first strike against Russia.

Russia's military command is NOT as tightly controlled by the President and top US military command. Top Russian military command DOES have the ability to independently launch - though there are safeguards at that secondary level.

 

You don't seriously believe that happened do you? Ah well, as Goering (or someone) said '‘Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it’. You're living proof that never have truer words been spoken.

 

Do you have any evidence for any of this?

 

Also, what was there to gain by doing it to germany.. and canada.. etc?

 

I have a dream.

 

I'd say you have lots and lots of them

 

You mean like how Trump said Mexico is going to pay for the border wall, and now want to do a reach around and take money from my pocket? Yup that description fit him to a T.

As far as your countrymen, being killed, you don't believe it, it's up to you. You rather close your eyes, and make joke about a guy tripping down some stairs.

 

Nope. They're flawed. The persecution of gays and Putin's authoritarianism leaves much to be desired (though it should be noted they're barely a generation yet out of Sovietism- not too bad all considered).

They are merely the best ally against globalism at this point.

We should become the model for Russia (and the world) to emulate. Individualist, free market, nationalist and tolerant and equitable.

 

But, for example, russia outranks say germany in your estimation?

 

trump is the new right wing messiah and he’ll drag the country down to their level of paranoia, hate and bigotry if we let him.
He’s already shown himself to be a traitor and he’s got his supporters mindlessly polishing turds for putin and ignorantly attacking our allies.
He wasn’t wrong about the poorly educated being his natural base.
Only a complete idiot, or a traitor, would still support trump after his most recent trip to Europe.

 

Actually I wanted one of him bouncing down the steps like he used to, with his hands in front of his abdomen, and was surprised to see the stumble: I often used to think it was bound to happen though, and how he'd recover his dignity at the bottom of the steps. Anyway, I note you don't approve of borders, so if you want the dregs of humanity from all over the planet arriving on your doorstep, that'll be your problem not mine. One day (probably when it's too late you liberals are something else!) you'll realise what Trump had in mind.

 

I'm glad he called the EU a foe. They are.

 

More than russia?

 

Why are you so fixated by Russia?

 

They are both foes, but Russia is small fish and not firmly in the anglosphere.

 

I clicked on this thread thinking it would be interesting but alas another "we hate Trump" circle jerk.

So do people that aren't republican voters ever think about anything else?

 

The country that attacked us, and the ukraine, and england, and is obviously doing a good job at working it's way back to soviet era power. The one that is the center of all the news today, just mounted our president on national tv and the subject of this entire post? That russia?

 

You're right, russia isn't a player on the world stage. They have almost no effect on global geopolitics. Much better to focus our attention and ire on the dire terrible horrible things germany is doing to us. That's where the outrage should really be.

 

When the hell did Russia attack England? And what does Ukraine have anything to do with anything, apart from Putin having to move in to halt its decline into anarchy, international organized crime, and internecine war? Let's call it a day - you're scary.

 

What can I say? People who love their country hate seeing it desecrated by someone who is not only stupid and incompetent, but also doesn't like that thing you love. We love America and hate the things that undermine it.

By the way... What on earth else could this be? On what planet would a post today entitled 'did you change your mind' mean anything other than 'if you were suckered by trump, have you learned your lesson today?'

 

Reality is a scary mother.

 

Lol...And punctuated by turd polishing attempts like this.
Why don't you tell us what you think about trump attacking our country and allies and bending over for putin?
trump has become a clear and present danger to our country.