WHY are Americans supposed to Hate Russia

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Actually If you base anything off anyone else opinion..It's your own fault...

    Targeted marketing works for Sheep..Most of Trump supporters are just that...sheep.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seeing the threat title I had hoped for more than a partisan rant. It is not just Dem's who are touting hate for Russia. The anti-Russia propaganda is a narrative that the Establishment is promoting and the Establishment is both Red and Blue.

    Perhaps you had not figured this out yet but, now that it has been explained to you - get with the program.

    Notice how many Republicans are trashing Trump for going against the Establishment narrative. "Das ist verbotten" - even some of his biggest supporters such as Gingrich - a tried and true Establishment insider.

    It was not "Obama's" deep state. While Obama was a convert - the deep state existed long before Obama stepped into office.

    The Trump trashing is almost more vocal and pronounced on the right than the left.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Same could be said for any supporters of any political bent
     
  4. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Really? Please explain..At least from where I'm at, democrats are just that for a reason, and republicans do not lie to them selves or others....But please elaborate.
     
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  5. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again folks.What exactly have the Russians or even Putin done
    to harm or make life uncomfortable for Americans.
    Whereas I can literally cite a plethora of things both Hillary
    Clinton did while Secretary-of-State and her boss Barack Obama
    have done.This isn't even a no brainer.It's Stalinism.
    A perverted extension of Rules for Radicals.Just make up loads
    of crap as then claim Trump is Bad for America and Americans.
    I get it ... Because that is what the Democrat Party does.They live to
    break stuff and make things worse then blame on their opposition.
    Not difficult to understand.Especially when Obama and his drat
    Dimocrats have been found out.The Press seems to believe they can
    merely twist facts and words and make it all go away.Or even worse,
    not report it.Like how we just found out Obama granted citizenship
    to 2,500 Iranian Families as a part of his secret Iran nuclear deal.
    This corrupted Press and MSM isn't gonna report it.Because they
    live to con the public.It's Proveable.
    They've been found out.One can't Undo being found out.
    Unless one lives in Obama La La land.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your threads are becoming increasingly incoherent . Polishing turds for a deplorable character like trump is not the best use of your time. He is now openly moving toward treason with his quisling actions with putin.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice to know you worship at the Altar of Obama.
    A Master deceiver-in-chief.How about knocking out of the park
    my hard facts about Obama and his servile toadies like
    Comey and Brennan and Strzok.You can't.
    Again ... nice to know.
     
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  8. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    You know what..I wanna hear what Obama or Clinton have done to poor old Americans In your opinion.....lets have it, Please oh please gimme some sanctimonious s$%t, how you think republicans stand over the rest.

    Republicans are for the rich..If you pretend to be rich, literally you only have your self to blame.
    If you want the Democratic party to do better...start voting where you fit in.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure they attacked our elections but had no impact. The left knows that and they did under Obama when nothing was done. They just now want to paint President Trump as complicit in those attacks. TDS.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Problem is, many Americans want to be rich....you won't be able to convince them all they are losers.....though you try through "identity politics".
     
  11. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing you mean they...cause I, me, my self, could give 1/100ths of a S$%t.
    Surpassing that, I may give a fart.
     
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    It's obvious.
     
  13. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I make an effort to make it so.

    Dunno definitions in your language, but I want you to google translate it well.

    AKA: No S$%t
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Name one thing that Obama and his Democrat Party did to make
    America Better.Just one thing.
    You name one thing.One thing Obama did
    and I'll name one thing Trump did.
    A tit for tat.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fact ... Under Obama ... more millionaires than ever in our
    history were made.I say they are Obama bureaucrats and those
    he funded raised at night with.
    While during daylight hrs. Obama either golfed or railed
    against the top 1 % { wealthy }.
    Stunning display of Hypocrisy.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What they call the Deep State has existed long before Barack Obama took office. Perhaps even before he was born.
     
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    There is an old saying- "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

    "When “Michael Corleone” said, “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.” The implication of this quote was not merely that you should know your enemies well. That’s just the obvious meaning, but what makes the quote profound is what else it does. By drawing a direct similitude between the treatment of one’s friends and the treatment of one’s enemies, the speaker implies that one ought to treat their enemies as they treat their friends, and even more so.Why?

    Not simply because one must know their enemies well—that’s obviously the case—for the deeper reason that one does not want their enemies to know that you are in fact enemies. This is what it actually means to keep one’s enemies closer than one’s friends.

    It is for this reason, this quote has so resiliently lodged itself in the human psyche. None of the writings from previous authors come close to making this deeper reference."


    In this case, it seems possible that once again, and a much larger segment of our society than usual.... fails to see this element as part of Trumps strategy.


    Sometimes I watch events and it can be like watching a world-class chess game- with all the onlookers, amateurs who wouldn't have a prayer of winning if they were playing, commenting on the foolish mistakes of the masters.

    One would have thought they would have learned at least a little bit from the results of the election and their gross misjudgment. Obviously, they did not.
     
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    I was trying to find a national benefit...My bad he worked county wide, fixing crap...starting with DC.

    Just one thing..nah Ill name a number of things

    Preserving net neutrality, making millions of Americans money.

    Union benefits, Getting rid of the government interference in education guaranteed loans....He tried unsuccessfully to make them absolved through other means.

    Bettering the GI Bill, Dunno how to spell it out for those that are lazy...but making education easy to obtain.

    Allocating funds to investing in apprenticeship programs across the country.

    Attempting to give Americans a tax holiday similar to Trumps.

    etc, etc.

    Your turn...Please start with Korea, and how he pissed off Syria with bombing them...Korea's ally.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Yet you still do not vote....
     
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    Besides the previous intelligence link posted earlier, there's this: http://thehill.com/policy/national-...a-targeting-midterm-elections-at-levels?amp=1
    Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Saturday that her agency has not seen levels of Russian interference targeting U.S. midterm elections close to the levels reported during the 2016 presidential election......

    ...Nielsen added that some level of Russian interference is still present and urged state officials to remain vigilant as some officials have noticed "persistent Russian efforts using social media, sympathetic spokespeople and other fronts to sow discord and divisiveness amongst the American people, though not necessarily focused on specific politicians or political campaigns," according to Time.

    Nielsen's remarks Saturday followed similar comments from Christopher Krebs, the agency's top cybersecurity official, who said this week that his office has not noticed "anything that rises to the level of 2016-directed, focused, robust campaign."


    "[We have] not seen anything, certainly, to the degree of 2016 in terms of specific hacking of election systems," Krebs said.

    "[But] the intelligence community continues to see Russian activity in the sowing discord across the American public," he added during congressional testimony on Wednesday.

    The intelligence community concluded last year that the Kremlin's motivations in 2016 were to undermine U.S. democracy, damage Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and help President Trump win the White House.

    Homeland Security officials have taken steps in the months since the election to help states secure voting systems, including offering remote cyber hygiene scans and more rigorous assessments that probe for potential vulnerabilities.
     
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    And, you believe yourself in regard to something you have no knowledge of whatsoever?

    Or, perhaps you mean you think I didn't vote as you would vote.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Whoops..I mean the primary...voting for dog catcher is your own voluntary waste of time.
     
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    The intel community has not publicly disclosed any evidence. Their reports are based on "assessments," not actual evidence.

    This is the same intel community that "assessed" that Iraq had WMDs and we know how that turned out.
     
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    That's not evidence.

    Please provide evidence.
     
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    Because liberals and their allies the neocons and the fake news MSM want to refight the Cold War ignoring that with a cold war comes all of the proxy wars and the millions who will be killed while the merchants of death get filthy rich.

    The question is,,,will the liberals switch sides in the middle of the war like they did 48 years ago ???
     
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