Rand Paul Defends Trump on Russia.....

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    lol sure ok.

    Answer me this. Did we and Europe interfere in the Ukrainian elections?

    And is that ok as long as we do it?
     
  2. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, but he caves to the R position too often for my tastes. We'll see how he votes on Kavanaugh's nomination. He's against him being a justice, due to his positions on the 4th. (Kavanaugh is anti 4th, believing safety is more important.)
     
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    Fortunately, doing one of those is required in 2018... you'll guess wrong on which one, of course...

    Obama 2020!!
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ?? He's not allowed to run.
     
  5. MMC

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    Yeah I know.....but then some of the leftists think he is Mega Conservative. You would think they know the basics of, at least the players.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a fan of some of his policies but, this guy is a man of principle and he stands buy them. He may be an army of one but he has more kahuna's than most of the rest of congress combined. He is not a liar and a fraud. If he were to run for President I would vote for him in a second - it would be a no brainer.
     
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    You’ll understand if I don’t take your word for it lol
    Quote?
     
  8. MMC

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    Meh.....he thought Hannity is a Senator and in the Senate. Eventually he will gain some sort of political knowledge
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    Yes obama knew stopping Russia from helping the gop would make your heads explode. Better to let you self destruct.
    And the attacks stopped from Assad...until Putin’s puppet came along
     
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    I have taken issue with some of Trump's remarks and I agree with the Megan Oprea that the world stage is probably not the best place to be trolling the Left in this country. Could he have handled things better? Sure.

    However, I agree with Rand Paul's position and I agree with Trump that both countries (or both countries' governments, if you prefer) are responsible for the state of relations between the U.S. and Russia. As I said earlier, I think the Clinton Administration could and should have done more during the 1990s to foster good relations with post-Soviet Russia. Is criticizing the failures (or "foolishness") of our government what you consider "disparaging our country"? If so, you're "disparaging our country" every time you criticize Trump for what you consider his failures and foolishness. That's pretty ludicrous, don't you think?

    (Of course, none of that absolves Putin of his own responsibility for the lousy state of affairs between our countries.)

    If you expect me to get all worked up over yesterday's presser I'm sorry to disappoint you. All the talk - good, bad and otherwise - at pressers and behind closed-door meetings isn't going to affect Vladimir Putin's thinking and behavior one bit. The only language thugs like him understand is brute force, like Russian soldiers being sent back to their families in body bags by American and Ukrainian soldiers.
     
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    Agreed. People look at the color next to the name and jump to crazy conclusions. Maxine Waters ≠ Blue Dog Democrats, but most can't distinguish.
     
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    I would also vote for him for president, but he does vote against his stated position quite often these days.
     
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    Obama isn't going to fix South Africa.

    South Africa allowed the ANC (socialist) to come to power and the results is that South Africa is a huge basket case today and...
    South Africa sat on a wall,
    South Africa had a great fall.
    All the king's horses and all the king's men
    couldn't put South Africa together again.
     
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    Obama speech in South Africa: Rips Trump's worldview …
    Business Insider
    2 hours ago · Former President Barack Obama on Monday offered a sharp rebuke of his successor's worldview as he delivered the 2018 Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture in South Africa, slamming "strong …


    Obama, Taking Aim at Trump, Warns Against …
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/world/africa/...
    Jul 17, 2018 · Obama, Taking Aim at Trump, Warns Against ‘Strongman Politics’ in South Africa Speech Image Former President Barack Obama delivered the Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture in Johannesburg on …


    Kind of hard to quote that mope with all the Stuttering he does......just how do you quote uh uh uh uh uh uh and uh?
     
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    Do you have a few examples ? or one at least ?
     
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    He’s against “strongman politics” and to you that’s anti American? Anti trump? Lol
     
  17. MMC

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    Of course he isn't going to fix S Africa....he is just there to trick them out of some money. Uhm I mean get some money for a speech.

    His SuperPac has been coming up light lately.
     
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    I never said anything about strongman politics.....Your the one that wanted a quote with all his stuttering and I asked just how do you do that. :lol:
     
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    Yes. And no.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    That’s all you posted...

    "Let me tell you what I believe. I believe in Nelson Mandela's vision, I believe in a vision shared by Gandhi and King, and Abraham Lincoln, I believe in a vision of equality and justice and freedom and multi-racial democracy built on the premise that all people are created equal and are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights."

    Yah that does seem very anti-trump lol
     
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    Oh is that how you excuse him for not protecting the Best Interest of the Country. Breaking his sworn oath. Imagine that. :laughing:
     
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    This may have been the best interest of the country. You guys won’t accwpt findings from the trump admin, but you’d have accepted it from the obama admin??
     
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    He should have quoted Eisenhower, the One in my signature. But it is understandable why the timid lil fella's Legacy is being erased by Trump. :grin:
     
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    LOL Can't be both Cubed.
     
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    While that would have been nice—and also would have been widely cheered by those who are cheering Trump for doing the opposite—we all know Trump can’t do that. It would mean implying that something other than himself and his rhetoric got him into the Oval Office.

    His ego needs to take full credit for everything.
     
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