Is it me or are liberals now routinely anti Christian and anti Semitic?

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  1. james M

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    so who ended it if not 1000 years Christian effort?
    ... Saint Augustine described slavery as being against God's intention and ...

    Other Popes in the 15th and 16th century denounced slavery as a great crime, including Pius II,[75] Paul III,[81] and Eugene IV.[82] In 1639, pope Urban VIII forbade slavery, as did Benedict XIV in 1741. In 1815, pope Pius VII demanded of the Congress of Vienna the suppression of the slave trade, and Gregory XVI condemned it again in 1839.[75]
     
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    if true I"ll pay you $10,000. Bet?? Do you know what a strawman is?
     
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    yes he created it in the sense that he made a huge religion out of it that came to dominate Western Civilization
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. People send their old to die in the modern day desert - the nursing home - to die alone. And you called that morality?? do you understand the concept of morality?
     
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    Dumb!! Who cares?? I'm sure the first human being thought about it 1 million years ago but not our subject!!
     
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    1) they are far from alone there
    2) not all die there

    far far different from dying of exposure in the wilderness. Over your head?
     
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    Why is it dumb?? You claimed the golden rule was created by Christians but that was proven wrong. Now you say it's not the "subject." Hilarious.
     
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    if so why so afraid to tell us what you actually said? What do you learn from your fear?
     
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    correct the genocide was before they took over, obviously they did not order a genocide against themselves
     
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    WTH...to die because your family have casted you off is the same as dying ALONE. Do you understand now? Did Jesus teach you to toss aside your parents when they are no longer of use to you? Don't be preaching to me about morality when you have none. Do you understand now??
     
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    Golden rule was in effect created by Christianity as Jesus and Luther taught it to billions and thus created morality on earth. Now do you understand?
     
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    why assume they have been cast off?
     
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    I don't assume. I know. Are you denying there aren't such cases around? I've seen enough to know better.
     
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    Saw title and had to add in - WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH. 100% liberals are anti christian - but antisemitic???
    I'd say there are a lot more right wing anti-semites than left wing anti-semites. In fact, hating on people for jews actually gets you patreon dollars and hundreds of thousands of subscribers, just look at James Allsup for example.
     
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    fake news.
     
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    Nah man, you should see his videos talking about Ben Shapiro - he says Ben can't be trusted because he's a duplicitous jew.
     
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    why would I deny the obvious that even a liberal would know?
     
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    Many religious leaders have described it as such. Your "who ended it if not the Christians" is fallacious nonsense. Who invented water if not the French. ? .. as if not coming up with an alternative somehow makes a claim true.

    It was the enlightenment thinkers who developed "Secular" rational for individual liberty. The end of Slavery was a result the Philosophical reasoning of the enlightenment thinkers .. that used by the founding fathers to come up with the principles on which this good nation was founded as per Classical Liberalism ... NOT Christianity.

    The Church hated Philosophy because they did not want people to use critical thinking skills to challenge religious dogma.

    One of the first actions of the Church once they obtained power was to close the schools of Philosophy - including the 700 year old Platonic school of Philosophy. They wanted to keep people stupid - dumb sheep are easier to herd. It was illegal to read the Bible. Literacy declined to such a point that by the middle ages Kings and Queens could not read and even some Bishops were illiterate.

    Galileo - was imprisoned in 1633 under your lovely and enlightened supporter of individual liberty- Pope Urban (now that you mention him). Under threat of torture he was forced to recant and put under house arrest until he died in 1642.

    His crime was suggesting that Sun revolved around the earth.

    By the time we get into the during the later 1600's and 1700s (particularly under Napoleon) the power of the Church is in serious decline. The Popes are fearing for their own safety and suddenly ... slavery is a bad thing .. go figure.

    Pathetic the history of the Church is.
     
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    I am liberal and I think conservatives routinely ignore what the Lord said about greed, about concerns for workers and the poor and many other things. They pay attention to part of the bible and ignore the rest. Or they create a reality where materialism does not exist in the US and where the poor and weak are in the shape they are in purely for their own failures.
     
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    what is it????????????? you may know your subject but reader does not
     
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    so the liberal has no idea who ended slavery but he knows it was not Christians who had authority and used it to fight against slavery for 1500 years. See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance?
     
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    Why are you cherry picking my post and talking nonsense in some attempt at deflection, avoidance and denial ?

    This is what I said and your response is moronic.
     
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    The civil war ended slavery. Abraham Lincoln was not particularly religious nor were many of the radical republicans. More to the point very religious people supported slavery in the US and long afterwords in Jim Crow and the KKK.
     
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    What does this have to do with Christians killing other Christians and Jews ?

    Another joke of a response and exercise in avoidance and denial ?
     

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