The Trump/Putin Alliance

It has been well reported that Susan Rice, NSA, told the Russian counter intelligence cyber efforts to stand down about August, 2016, IIRC.

 

Trump's performance on Monday was embarrassing. According many members of his own party, including the leadership of the Senate and House, his statements bordered on treason and they contradicted Trump. Imagine that, the leaders of his own party took issue with his treasonous statements. The intelligence community, led by Trump appointees, Coats and Wray, seriously questioned why Trump rejected American intelligence and accepted the dictator's word instead because "President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”

On Tuesday, Trump's bumbling attempt at damage control only made matters worse. He embarrassed himself once again claiming that changing one word -- "would" to "wouldn't" -- would correct all the faults of his performance the previous day. It didn't.

What is disconcerting is the reaction or lack of reaction on the part of millions of Americans ... the millions of Americans who voted for Trump. They simply don't care. These comments represent their viewpoint, or lack thereof.

As can be seen, rather than defending Trump, some are in denial. They simply say what Trump said didn't happen. Others change the subject. Others bring up issues not related to Trump's performance. Others approve of Trump's Neville Chamberlain strategy of diplomacy, forget past wrongs and embrace the future. Others use wisecracks. They attacked the writers who reported Trump's behavior.

But, mostly, they simply do not care.

Then again, perhaps it is impossible to defend Trump. His performances on Monday and Tuesday are beneath contempt for the President of the United States and possibly treasonous. After attacking our allies and weakening the NATO alliance, Trump rejected American intelligence, blamed America for all that is wrong with U.S./Russian relations, and solemnly agreed with a communist dictator.

 

You ignoramuses toss out the word treasonous as easy as you order coffee in the morning. You either have no knowledge what it means, or, more than likely, know but don't give a rat's ass. As long as it lets you blare away and foam at the mouth your pleased.

 

It's hard to counter histrionics.

 

Sandy Shanks said: ↑
There are two matters of great concern here.

During the news conference yesterday, Trump rejected American intelligence and believed Putin. “They said, ‘I think it is Russia.’ I have President Putin. He just said it is not Russia. I will say this: I do not see any reason why it would be. I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial.” "They," in this case, being American intelligence. Trump's statement is a remarkable concession to Putin, bordering on treason.

Since Nixon, every President has released tax returns, except for Gerald Ford, who instead made public a decade's worth of summary data about his federal taxes. Trump has not release his tax returns causing many to wonder what is in those tax returns Trump does not want Americans to see. He has pursued business deals in Russia since 1987, and has sometimes traveled there to explore potential business opportunities. Trump's partners and children have repeatedly visited Moscow, connecting with developers and government officials to explore joint venture opportunities. Following Trump's bankruptcies in the 1990s he borrowed money from Russian sources. In 2008 his son Donald Trump Jr. said that Russia was an important source of money for the Trump businesses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia

Why did Trump want to meet secretly with Putin away from his advisors? In that two hours, did he make any other concessions to Putin? There is much speculation Putin has some kind of hold on Trump, which would explain a lot. Did they discuss that hold? That would be a very good reason why Trump would want to meet privately with Putin.

 

I'm afraid to ask, who would that be? A list would be nice.

 

He's not on the same level as Brennan, and I don't always agree with him, but Neil Cavuto came out pretty strong against Trump's performance. The poster might do better to quote him, rather than the admittedly brilliant, yet proven liar and hack that is Brennan.

http://www.businessinsider.com/neil-cavuto-trump-press-conference-with-putin-disgusting-2018-7

 

I agree his attempt to correct what he meant was embarrassing He had a lot of pressure on him from his own people to try and fix what he said. I don't believe for one minute Trump didn't believe the Russians were involved. I do believe he wanted this summit to improve relations with Russia. He knows there can be no settlement in Syria, Iran and N. Korea without Russian and Chinese help. But we also know the Left wanted Trump to call Putin out. Trump was up against the wall, once Putin said they didn't do it. Was he to call Putin a liar and shame him before the world? Not a good way to improve relations. He really was in a no win situation. Liberals just want another reason to trash Trump and call for his impeachment. He has shown he has been tougher on Russia than that coward Obama, who never wanted to do anything that would upset Russia.

 

It is a common thing for Presidents to meet one on one with one another. This was a common thing until Trump Derangement Syndrome!

 

This is much ado and hyperspaz over nothing.

 

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump


The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media. I look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear........

6:24 AM - Jul 19, 2018

The President of the United States said the "real enemy of the people" is the news media as he congratulates himself with his "success" with Russia.

Success in Trump's mind is the devaluation of American intelligence in favor of Putin's word because he was extremely strong and powerful in his denial."

The formation of an autocracy requires a constant, unrelenting attack on the free press. A true dictatorship does not allow a free press.

Trump is a Russian sympathizer. His base remains solidly in support of him. Trump can do no wrong.

Logically, it follows his base consists of Russian sympathizers as well.

A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.

 

It is not common for them to meet in secret, no record of what was said, no record of agreements, no advisors. Trump's private meeting with a hostile foreign leaders was unprecedented.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Just asking.

I can't believe you endorse this secret meeting with a Russian dictator. Didn't Singapore teach you a thing?

 

He has been saying there was no Russian interference in our election for the past two years. How many times has he said Mueller's Russian probe is a "witch hunt."

“Well, I think it was Russia and I think it could have been other people and other countries. It could have been [that] a lot of people interfered. Nobody really knows for sure.” No, Trump didn't just say that. He said it at a news conference in Poland on July 6, 2017.

If he couldn't stand up to Putin, then he should not have agreed to the summit.

But he did agree to the summit. And he said what he said. "My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me, some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be. I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial."

You can't unring a bell.

There is no reason in the world why the President has suddenly become the lead diplomat. He has a state department. He has an aggressive Marine general as his SecDef. He has people who are highly experienced who can handle the situation.

But this Donald Trump. He has to be the star. He put himself in that position and he is responsible for what happened.

Quit making excuses for him. He did what he did and it bordered on treason. End of story.

 

The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is a communist party in the United States. Originally a group in the Communist Party USA that supported Leon Trotsky against Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, it places a priority on "solidarity work" to aid factory workers.

Trump’s imposed steep tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. That delighted the factory workers he had championed. “Enthusiastic and gratified are probably understatements,” said Michael A. Bless, the president of Century Aluminum.

Today, Fox News interrupted its scheduled programing to accommodate President Trump's "Pledge to America's Workers Event."

 

Trump wants another summit with Putin this fall in New York. Dan Coats, Trump's DNI, heard about it while he was being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell. They both had a good laugh.

“We have some breaking news, the White House has announced on Twitter that Vladimir Putin is coming to the White House in the fall,” Mitchell said during an event with Coats at the Aspen Security Forum.

“Say that again?” Coats replied, before laughing.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...a-mitchell-breaks-news-to-us-intel-chief-that

You had to see it live. It was so cherry.

 

What's even worse is when 30,000 e-mails go missing, blackberry's smashed, etc. and there is a deep state cover-up, of course that was completely beyond your comprehension or desire to know.

 

TDS often makes things cherry so you won't succumb to your depression.

 

The media/press discarded their own freedom when they became an unabashed unapologetic propoganda arm of the Democrat party. Trump didn't take their freedom away.

That is just the reverse of what it has been since the early progressive movement in the early 1900s all the way through Obama's RESET, tepid response to Ukraine, and secret promise to remove the defensive eastern Europe missile shield, and tons of overt examples in between.

 

Trump went on to say he holds his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin personally responsible for Moscow's attempts to interfere in the 2016 US election. In an interview with CBS News anchor Jeff Glor, Trump said Putin was culpable as Russia's leader. "I would because he’s in charge of the country just like I consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country," Trump said. "So certainly as the leader of the country you would have to hold him responsible."

Trump lied again. That is not what he said.

At the news conference on Monday while facing Putin Trump said, "My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me, some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be. I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial."

In addition to his other faults, Trump is coward. It is one thing to appear on television in Washington facing one pathetic reporter who was afraid to ask about the elephant in the room and quite another to face a bevy of savvy reporters and Putin in his own backyard and tell the Russian dictator he holds him personally responsible for Moscow's attempts to interfere in the 2016 US election.

Trump is a Russian sympathizer. His base remains solidly in support of him. Trump can do no wrong.

Logically, it follows his base consists of Russian sympathizers as well.

A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-on-trump-putin-and-the-countries-they-lead/

 

Did you get a good look at Dan Coats' reaction to Andrea Mitchell's announcement that Trump's wants another summit with Putin? Man, it was classic. Then they both had a good laugh at Trump's expense. Here is a video of Coat's reaction. Coats is Trump's DNI appointee. Jeez, it is funny.

https://www.newsweek.com/dan-coats-putin-white-house-visit-1033621

 

Be specific. What are you talking about? This entire thread is a product of the free press. What did I write that was wrong or "unabashed unapologetic propoganda of the Democrat party?"

You can't can you? All Trump fans can do is throw meaningless, unsupported, vague accusations out there. They think saying it makes it true.

Actually, just saying it makes them look foolish.

In CA we have to declare our party affiliation. I am a card-carrying Republican. Feel a little foolish?

So what?

A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-on-trump-putin-and-the-countries-they-lead/

 

If you don't believe that Trump didn't think the Russians were not involved suggest you do a bit of an internet search and find his almost endless series of tweets saying exactly that.

 

Trump has done more to confront Russia than Obama did in eight years. The pipeline that is buying Germany's loyalty is being addressed. Sanctions have been imposed.....what, do you want another "Russian Reset"? Rerturn to the old leftist tactics? Or perhaps you would prefer we nuke them?? TDS has you making all kinds of claims.

 

Laughter will keep you from blowing your brains out.....I guess it is good.

 

I was not referring to posters here. I was referring to the official main stream media.