Decriminalising Abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Oh, that....your whining about how "no one ever is allowed to have a gun and women are defenseless because someone stole their guns" CRAP.


    Why can't you take your "Gun Whining" to the Gun Whining Forum....I'm SURE there is one...


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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You brought up women's rights. Unless she is a judge or a politician, a woman may not carry a firearm to protect herself, thanks to Hypocrats like yourself. Your party is not a champion of women's rights. You were wrong. Look it up!
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, Australia has long criminalized abortions. Thanks for the information.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I so do not wish to engage with you on your favorite topic, but for the hell of it, this time i will.

    You speak of the woman's body. We speak of the child's body. Let's not get wobbly with semantics since even the woman knows enough to refer to it as her baby or child.

    If millions of women love the baby enough to carry it to term, we will not accept the tiny number who call it a fetus. This term is satisfying to scientists but few doctors will discuss the fetus with the woman, they refer to it as her baby.

    I believe all women have full rights to their bodys. But we know how women are put into prison and denied rights to their body. So this is not an always situation. Women in the military do not have total rights to their body. The military can simply remove them for being pregnant.

    So it is not a one size fits all as you lament a lot of the time.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doctors in the united states are not known to flaunt the law. So we need not seek the records since by and large doctors are among the trusted class. If the law tells the doctor the abortion is illegal, we expect the doctor to obey the law. We have procedures for doctors who fail to uphold laws.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Answer me this.

    Married twice, one child by each woman, neither taking the pill ...

    Wife 1 and me married 11 full years. Why did she not get pregnant but two times? Time one she had the child. Time 2 she and i consented to an abortion for her. Why? She had Rh negative blood type and the doctor cautioned us not to have more children due to various dangers due to her blood type. Secretly she had been unfaithful to me and she told my sister the child she aborted was by somebody else. I never asked her since I found out after the divorce was over so it was none of my business at that point.

    Wife 2 chose to be pregnant and once she delivered, she chose not to be pregnant. Both women truly wanted plenty of sex and i was happy to please both. We were married 3 full years.

    So why did both women not get pregnant? They chose not to get pregnant is why.
     
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    I don't, I use the right terms for different stages of human development.

    I don't call teenagers adults or adults, toddlers or seniors , babies or fetuses adults.….....I don't care what anyone calls a fetus, it's still a fetus.







    See above.

    There is absolutely no logic nor reason in that statement.




    It has nothing to do with satisfaction, just scientific accuracy...…...do you call your heart a teddy bear?



    Yes, especially if the woman wants it and is expecting a "baby".....she , and the doctor, can call it anything they want, a princess, a watermelon, or a bun....it's still a fetus.




    I believe all women have full rights to their bodys.



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    When ANYONE commits a CRIME they are denied SOME rights.

    Committing a crime doesn't mean they can use your body to physically sustain the life of another.







    The military cannot force anyone to use their body to physically sustain another's life.

    It is still a crime to rape soldiers....so women do NOT lose their right to their own bodies in the military.




    But it can't force them to remain pregnant nor force them to have an abortion....they STILL have the right to their own bodies.





    I never said it's "one size fits all" in regard to abortion so you must've made that up.
     
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    "Answer me this " WTF does this have to do with abortion or the topic of this thread ???
     
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    So, what has this got to do with the fact tha Queensland has not one but three anti abortion laws written into the criminal code but still has over 14,000 abortions performed legally each year?
     
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    Certain states have
     
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    This is in essence why abortion laws do not work. same problem happened in England and basically anywhere there has been abortion laws unless the laws are written to ban abortion under any circumstance. Where that has happened young women die
     
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    So, how are you going to prosecute?

    This is what happened here

    https://www.childrenbychoice.org.au/factsandfigures/queenslandabortionlaw
     
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    You did not even try to answer my question.
     
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    I agree 100%. Abortion laws are worthless. They only create a demand for medical tourism and black market, unsafe abortions. If an unsafe abortion results in a life threatening infection, she is unlikely to seek medical care out of fear or prosecution.
     
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    thats because we here in America dont feel killing defenseless humans is a worthy trait.
     
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    Let me remind you...POST # 30....YOU responded to my post....forgot already???

    You post here in PF and you will get responses....ya, you probably can't address those responses but they have every right to be there :)

    I'll put my nose in any post I choose....:) Oh, too bad, someone you can't control :)


    You could NOT answer my post """"Answer me this " WTF does this have to do with abortion or the topic of this thread ???""

    so are worming your way out of answering...:)
     
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    Note to all posters. This poster replied to one of my posts FIRSTand now can't answer questions so goes off topic as usual...

    I blew his post out of the water with this :

    FoxHastings said:
    I don't, I use the right terms for different stages of human development.

    I don't call teenagers adults or adults, toddlers or seniors , babies or fetuses adults.….....I don't care what anyone calls a fetus, it's still a fetus.









    See above.



    There is absolutely no logic nor reason in that statement.






    It has nothing to do with satisfaction, just scientific accuracy...…...do you call your heart a teddy bear?





    Yes, especially if the woman wants it and is expecting a "baby".....she , and the doctor, can call it anything they want, a princess, a watermelon, or a bun....it's still a fetus.




    I believe all women have full rights to their bodys.



    .


    When ANYONE commits a CRIME they are denied SOME rights.

    Committing a crime doesn't mean they can use your body to physically sustain the life of another.









    The military cannot force anyone to use their body to physically sustain another's life.

    It is still a crime to rape soldiers....so women do NOT lose their right to their own bodies in the military.






    But it can't force them to remain pregnant nor force them to have an abortion....they STILL have the right to their own bodies.







    I never said it's "one size fits all" in regard to abortion so you must've made that up.
     
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    Unless they're brown and in another country ( "collateral damage" ) .


    LOTS of people in America kill defenseless humans whether they think it's "worthy " or not...


    And that has NOTHING to do with womens' right to their own bodies.....
     
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    And other posters should answer your questions why???
     
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    Who give a........


    Aussie. We swing both ways
     
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    Tell me why don't men have vasectomies?

    Takes two to Tango
     
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    This is almost off topic

    But do you honestly think that the Irish were less concerned? How about all this "Catholic" countries moving to decriminalising abortion? The reasons why abortion is being decriminalised is not because more people " want to see dead babies" but because people do not want to see dead and dying young women
     
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    Because it was irrelevant

    Answer this is not about you
     
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    I will recall that smart mouth reply.
     

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