"Pro-gun rocker Ted Nugent turns away firearms from his Roanoke show"

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  1. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what the city attorney have said. I gave you a link but you didn't even bothered reading it.

    "The general requirement is that the civic center or any public property that is used by a particular private party for any particular purposes, it is there space for that time. And as such, they can put restrictions that the city cannot. In the case of the Berglund Center, Ted Nugent and his group made the decision late in the day yesterday that they prefer fire arms not be brought into the civic center during Mr. Nugent's performance. And so that announcement was made to the attendees before they entered the civic center and I think generally folks accepted it and dealt with the issue. But it was a decision made by Ted Nugent group not by the city or the management company that manages the civic center.

    https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/city-responds-to-nugent-berglund-center-gun-policy\
     
  2. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surrender number 2.
     
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    what do you know about the City Attorney? is he an honest person? would he lie for political reasons? How does he feel about the 2nd amendment?

    What about Ted Nugent? has he ever wavered on his support of the 2nd amendment? ever??

    Funny you are still denying what Ted Nugent said
     
  4. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    bwahahahahahahahahahaha.....Thanks for the laugh mister. If the city attorney had LIED, the mayor would have came down on his @$$. Did you even research VA's gun laws???? Yes or NO.

    If the center had wanted to bar guns, they didn't have to write a novel about it. They could simply have said "Guns are not allowed on the premises." But they DIDN'T. Furthermore, they didn't say they would KICK you out if you didn't put your gun in your car when asked.

    Ted Nugent is a damn unpatriotic draft dodger. Nice to know you support this piece of dirt.

    Why don't you email the Center and ask them about their gun policies and get back with me.
     
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    Nugent says he didn't ban guns from the venue.

    I'll believe him until proven otherwise.

    This is just another thing in a long line of constant things the left will be wrong about.
     
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  6. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The city attorney have said otherwise. It's Ted or his people that did it.
     
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    You getting any audio from this?

     
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    No, a reporter says that's what someone said.
     
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    This is more fake news by the anti-gun wackos.

    How many times do us intelligent folks on the right have to explain to the simpletons that the performers at these venues don't own the venues and don't make the rules for the venues?

    Nugent doesn't own the "Berglund Center" and therefore doesn't make the rules for the "Berglund Center"....
     
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    So you just pretty proving that indeed, Ted's people didn't want guns in there.
     
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    Why would the mayor come down on his ass for lying and protecting the city? Your really not thinking this through.

    They both can't be right. Either the lawyer is lying that Ted Nugent said they didn't want guns.

    Or Ted Nugent is lying and even though he is religiously pro second amendment.. he changed his views and decided he doesn't like the second amendment..
    Really? That the option you are choosing to believe? Lol
     
  12. rcfoolinca288

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    Your video just proved you wrong. Thanks for that video.
     
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    Ah...you think a violation of state law would be overlooked, and opened the city to a lawsuit? You STILL haven't research on VA gun's laws did you??? Either Ted lied or his people lied. Do you know there have been protest against this concert? Either HE or his PEOPLE were feeling unsafe. Funny that the concert would have most likely been attended by conservatives.
     
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    As a condition for leasing the space, he can absolutely makes the rules. Listen to the video vman posted.
     
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    Yeah she said it came from the promoter, not Ted.

    However it happened, I like my odds as the info comes out it will just be another thing the left gets wrong.

    Since there were protestors there at the concert, I bet the request was to make sure no armed protestors got in.

    We'll see.
     
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    We're talking about a guy who sht and pissed all over himself, ate Twinkies all day, didn't sleep, and didn't bath, to avoid the military. Obviously he's a true patriot.

    I guess he only found his patriotism when he was too old to serve.
     
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    Uh huh....Nice backpedalling from all that "you made up stuffs about the gun policy" arguments.
     
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    Yes it could. Which then it would fall on the lawyer to do dammage control and put the blame on Ted to avoid any lawsuits..

    It still is your believing a random lawyer vs Ted Nugent.

    Can you point to any point in time that Ted Nugent's stance on the second amendment has wavered? If so then maybe you are right and he wavered again.. but I have never heard of him not being 1000% pro second amendment. So to believe your take on it we need to ignore a huge core belief of Ted Nugent.. and out our faith in a random lawyer is telling the truth.. ok sure
     
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    You deny the fact that Nugent LIED so he didn't get drafted?? Why would I believe a proven liar. That you do is very telling.

    His agent, his promoters, none of them have DENIED about asking that guns not be allowed inside.

    Here's what the guy you are defending think of you:

    https://dangerousminds.net/comments...gent_shit_in_his_own_pants_to_avoid_the_draft



    Ted Nugent: Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin’ it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin’ around, hippying down, getting’ loaded and pickin’ my ass like your common curs, I’d say “Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin’ around in the gutters.” But I wasn’t a gutter dog. I was a hard workin’, mother****in’ rock and roll musician.
     
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    Its private property. Open Carry doesnt apply. If they say 'no guns', then all guns become illegal guns.
     
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    No, it's not private property. It's OWNED by the city.

    Why don't you read the links I've provided before you say such foolish things.

    Nice mis-interpretation on your part though. LMAO.
     
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    Why don't you read this link...

    https://theberglundcenter.com/168/Guest-Guidelines
     
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    Yep...
     
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    Why don't you listen to the video vman posted? why didn't you read the link I've posted and read what the City Attorney said? I've even posted an email from Robyn Schon in 2009 clarifying the gun policy issue, but you didn't read that either.
     
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    Yup. I spoke too soon.

    So heres what happened.

    Ted wanted guns at the show (he claims).

    The city can't ban guns at the show, but the leaser of the building may if they choose to (the building essentially becomes their temporary property for the purposes of who may or may not patron it, and how).

    Ted wasn't the leaser. 'Artist Management' was the contractual leaser of the show, and they for all intents and purposes hired both Ted (to play) and the Berglund center (to host), and thus 'Artist Management was the defacto 'rulemaker' for the show.

    The contract they used was a standard ryder, which included a 'no firearms' policy for the event. Whether it was on purpise or on accident is up for speculation... but suffice to say, neither Ted, 'his people', nor the venue had the authority to allow guns on the premecise as 'no guns' had already been contractually set by the leaser of the Berglund- 'Artist Management', who in all liklihood was neither present nor immediately available for contact (thats how these 'middle-man agencies' tend to operate).

    Sure, Ted could be lying and months ago whispered to 'Artist Management' to send the 'no guns' ryder because he was skeered... but its just as likely that this was a last minute bureaucratic bungle as well- a secretary emailed 'form A4-41' instead of 'form A4-14' and all hell broke lose.

    Its unlikely proof will ever be provided either way.
     
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