Donald Trump has been far tougher on Russia than obama, who is the real traitor

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    There are, and anyway, I don't expect you to have the objectivity to see them.

    Poor Trump.

    Victim of the left, the media, the FBI, the CIA, the Deep State, Mueller and the incompetence of the people he himself hired around him...

    But at least he can count on you Trumpists.

    We know you're loyal enough to throw yourself off the cliff with him.
     
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    Your side has been pushing this fact free criminal conspiracy fantasy for two years.

    Former CIA Director John Brennan does not even attempt to conceal his loathing of Trump, it was none other than Brennan who had the CIA spying on members of Congress—indeed the entire Senate Intelligence Committee. Surely, there were others in the Agency who helped him. How many like Brennan are still there?

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/t...cuted-by-the-american-intelligence-community/

    They need to be purged.
     
  3. Arkanis

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    Why does he keep getting protection from them?
     
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    When you find out he goes on trial, let us know.
     
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    The irony of this post must escape you? Rhetorical BTW........Puppet Donnie is dancing the RU Hopak to Vlad's beat.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...irrefutable proof of the MANY booty-kissings Obama applied to Putin's posterior = "guilt" on my part and "Trump behaving like a puppet on a string"...not OBAMA.

    I mean, Obama allowed US YELLOW CAKE URANIUM, the primary component of NUCLEAR WEAPONS, to be ILLEGALLY shipped, WITH NO NRC PERMITS , to WHEREVER PUTIN WANTED IT TO GO.

    And you're spewing "Trump is Putin's puppet' BULLSHIT...STILL???

    eyes crossed puppet.jpg

    Don't worry, I'm sure no one noticed that you HAVE NEVER REFUTED A SYLLABLE of any of it...EVER.

    :roll: :roflol:
     
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    The Corruption in our Intelligence Agencies doesn't get to steal the valor of the Secret Service, Silly!

    Director of National Intelligence [DNI] James Crapper—the second Trump-loather only recently departed from the top of the “IC.” Mr. Crapper is the guy who had the NSA collecting all possible data on all Americans and then lied to Congress about it.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/t...cuted-by-the-american-intelligence-community/

    How come all the folks you defent are lying traitors?
     
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    More propaganda spin/dodging.
     
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    Still dodging to Obama when there are no FOX talking points? MRGA!!!
     
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  11. Arkanis

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    According to Mr. Comey’s own memos leaked to the New York Times, combined with Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice’s “note to self” within minutes of Trump’s inauguration, we know that Brennan, Crapper, Obama, Comey, Rice, counter-terrorism advisor Lisa Monaco, Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates and Vice President Biden, met in the Oval Office just before Comey went to brief the president-elect. Not only did they decide to limit information about Russia to be shared with the incoming team, they dispatched Comey to set up Mr. Trump for the media explosion of the entire false narrative and Steele dossier.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/t...cuted-by-the-american-intelligence-community/
     
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    On January 6, 2017, on instructions from Crapper, Comey met one-on-one with Mr. Trump in Trump Tower. Comey “executed the session just as he had planned.”

    He dropped the bombshell of only the “salacious” details of the Steele dossier. He ran to his car to write down the details of the conversation, then he reported to Crapper and possibly Brennan, one of whom leaked it to CNN. Comey’s briefing provided the very “news hook” they all knew the media wanted to run with the existence of the unverified, Clinton-bought-and-paid-for dossier.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/t...cuted-by-the-american-intelligence-community/
     
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    I spelled out the irony in your

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    There's no escaping it.

    Obviously, you've conceded that you can't refute anything in Grok's post about Puppet Barack dancing the RU Hopak to Vlad's beat. That's okay - everyone knows Obama was Purtin's b*tch...and Ali Khamenei's b*tch, and Raul Castro's b*tch and Bashar al-Assad's b*tch and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's b*tch and...well, everybody's b*tch really.

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    More complete failure to address a single point made....
     
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    Pointing out the OBVIOUS is the face of your sophomoric, ZERO-FACT claims about Trump/Putin, vs the PLETHORA of UNDISPUTABLE FACTS illustrating Obama/Putin , doesn't require anything from anyone else, just a KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACTS...like THIS ONE:

    Yeah...irrefutable proof of the MANY booty-kissings Obama applied to Putin's posterior = "guilt" on my part and "Trump behaving like a puppet on a string"...not OBAMA.

    I mean, Obama allowed US YELLOW CAKE URANIUM, the primary component of NUCLEAR WEAPONS, to be ILLEGALLY shipped, WITH NO NRC PERMITS , to WHEREVER PUTIN WANTED IT TO GO.

    And you're spewing "Trump is Putin's puppet' BULLSHIT...STILL???
     
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    The left? Try even Fox news.... lol
    The Dotard just messed up, and he is on full damage control, and retracting what he said previously.

    We all noticed how the Dotard handled this one.
     
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    You can't go after everyone who criticizes Trump or investigates him.

    There are too many.

    Only Trumpists believe in all these plots.

    If Trump did an irreproachable job and had a strong team of competent people around him, he would surely have the support of public opinion.

    But that is not the case.

    Then he's gonna fall sooner or later.
     
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    The big plot is the Russian Criminal Conspiracy fable. A room full of investigators, in multiple countries, over two years and you don't have squat. Are you really the one to lecture others on conspiracy fantasies?
     
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    She's real East German Scum.

    Muslim Migrant Beheads Baby In Germany. Angela Merkle bans media from reporting on the crime.
     
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    There are plenty of lefties on Fox News.
     
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    If you think Trump has been stronger against Russia than Obama, then you have a very different definition of "stronger" than I or most Americans have.
     
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    Ha!
     
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    I often hear people try to claim that Trump has been tougher on Russia -- while simultaneously trying to defend why it is necessary for Trump to bend over backwards for Putin.

    I hear trump voters tout that Trump expelled 60 diplomats -- but here is something Trump voters DO NOT KNOW...First, Trump wanted to expel fewer diplomats and felt he was misled by his own state department officials when he found out they expelled 60 -- as Trump put it, he didn't want to be seen as taken the lead on diplomat expulsions.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-felt-misled-angry-over-expulsion-of-60-russian-diplomats-report-2018-04-15

    Furthermore, there was a loop hole in the expulsion of diplomats -- Russia gets to replace them with 60 new diplomats and they have.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/theres-a-huge-caveat-in-the-us-expulsion-of-60-russian-diplomats-2018-3

    After annexing Crimea, Russia was booted from the G8 -- Trump wants them back in the G8

    Obama imposed a number of tougher sanctions on Russia including the now famous Magnitsky Act -- Putin so much despises this act that he got Trump to entertain sending over not just Bill Browder, but the congressional staffer who wrote most of the policy -- not for any crime, but simply because Putin is pissed at him, period.
    http://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/

    Also, back during the 2016 Republican nomination -- Trump's team only inserted one change into the GOP platform -- and that was a change asked for by Manafort concerning Ukraine that was favorable to Putin.

    Also, when Trump initially wanted to make Mitt Romney, Sec of State -- Russia veto'd the choice and instead urged Trump to pick Rex Tillerson, a man whom Trump had never met before, yet still picked him on Putin's request -- mainly because he wanted to finalize the Exxon merger that was previously blocked by you guessed it, Obama...the deal ultimately didn't go thru -- subsequently, Rex is no longer Sec of State.

    Also, when Trump first got into office, he immediately wanted to lift sanctions on Russia but was rejected by career state department officials.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-secret-efforts-lift-russia-sanctions-putin-619508

    Now I won't say that Trump is a traitor -- but I will say that you trump lovers were so willing to call Obama a traitor for far far less.
     
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