The Trump/Putin Alliance

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Fine, then my reporting is accurate. So why did you mention it on a thread I started and maintained if it didn't pertain to the free press reports that I have used?

    I will answer the question. You can't defend Trump. So, you accused me of using fake news, a statement you can't support.

    Why do you support Trump? Ask yourself that question. I am not interested in your B.S. answer.
     
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    It is past time for Trump's impeachment. Trump's performance on Monday emboldened Mueller to think consider strongly the threat that the communist dictator of Russia has some kind of a hold on our President. A large number of Americans believe that. It explains Trump's treasonous behavior on Monday.

    Now some Russians believe the same thing.

    This is surreal! I saw this video today. I still cannot believe what I heard. Allow me to let the New Haven Register tell you what the American audience heard.

    Russian media has enjoyed President Trump’s love affair with Vladimir Putin, with one host saying on the country’s’ state-controlled television network that Trump appeared to be an operative for their country.

    “When Trump says our relations are bad because of American foolishness and stupidity, he really smells like an agent of the Kremlin,” said Olga Skabeeva, a host of the Russian program “60 Minutes.”


    https://www.nhregister.com/entertai...ump-Putin-Love-He-13088765.php#photo-15890699

    Imagine that. The President of the United States, due to his obsequious views of Putin during their news conference on Monday, is referred to as an "agent of the Kremlin" by the host of the Russian version of 60 Minutes.

    That is Skabeeva right of center in the photo.

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    Actually, I am having the time of my life. I enjoyed it tremendously when Trump's choice for DNI began laughing his fool head off at the ridiculous suggestion from that he meet with Putin again, this time at the White House. Didn't you? Pretty funny, huh.

    Right, that will happen when pigs fly.
     
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    We laugh....but not at the same things. I laughed when your fearless leader, Maxine Waters had the Swahili crew burn the American flag the other day.
    Remember, Trump was elected so pigs are flying.
     
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    I am in the same situation, but I do not represent the establishment GOP as you and other left leaning Rinos do.
     
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    You spelled a word wrong in that sentence. It should read, "Trump has done more to comfort Russia than Obama did in eight years."

    I am not going to waste my time on Trump's puny efforts to punish Russia. So, while, Putin invaded Ukraine, illegally annexed Crimea, supports a murderous Syrian dictator, is Iran's major weapons supplier, and interfered in our Presidential elections, Trump's efforts are like a band-aid on gushing wound to the gut. He reluctantly imposed sanctions (finally) that were forced on him by Congress, and he threw out some diplomats who immediately were replaced because he didn't reduce the number of allowable diplomats.

    He took nearly all those steps when Tillerson and McMasters were on his staff. They told Trump he had to take those puny steps to show he is doing something. Tillerson and McMasters were both fired and replaced by sycophants, Pompeo and Bolton.

    And it shows. Want proof? Treasonous performance on Monday. Neither Pompeo nor Bolton have said a word about the summit. Neither has Mattis. Along with Dan Coats and Chris Wray, none of these men know what the hell happened during that two hour secret meeting Trump requested.

    Here it is five days later and no one knows a thing and no one is talking. Welcome to the Trump White House.
     
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    Trump has extended an invitation to Vladimir Putin to another summit, this time at the White House. On multiple levels this is beyond incomprehension. It will not happen.

    From the American point of view, we still do not know what happened at the first summit. Our only source for those two hours is Trump, the purveyor of fake news. He has lied so much, most Americans are not willing to believe anything he says. Trump did his talking at the news conference and that is enough. His rejection of American intelligence in favor Putin was treasonous.

    From Putin's point of view, he got what he wanted at the Helsinki summit. The American President embarrassed himself and is reviled at home for his treason. Why give Trump a chance at a redo at his house? Particularly, when Trump says things like this. Trump vowed Thursday that if his dealings with Russian leader Vladimir Putin don't "work out, I'll be the worst enemy he's ever had." Putin would be foolish to accept the invitation. He knows the problems Trump caused at home, and he is thrilled. Why in the world give Trump a second chance?

    Trump talks big when Putin and a bevy of savvy reporters are not around. When it counted, Trump was a coward. Putin is quite pleased. Let it go at that.

    Because of the acrimony toward him caused by Trump's disgraceful performance, Putin knows he is not welcome to America. He knows Trump's own party is telling him that. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan said they have no intention of inviting Russian President Vladimir Putin to address Congress.

    The media still has not learned. This invitation is bogus, a farce, another one of Trump's red herrings, this time to get the media to talk about something other than his treasonous performance on Monday. Yet, the invitation is all over the media. The "fake news media," as Trump likes to call it, is doing his dirty work for him.
     
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    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham and a large number of Republicans in Congress took issue with Trump's performance on Monday and his performance at the NATO summit. Are they all "left leaning Rinos," too?

    You are siding with Trump and Putin. Among other things, you are claiming Trump has been tough on Russia, exactly what Trump says. In actuality, beyond window dressing, Trump has done nothing. Putin is extremely pleased with Trump's performance as President.

    You must be a Russian sympathizer.

    A quarter of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (25%) said they had a favorable view of Putin, compared with just 9% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-on-trump-putin-and-the-countries-they-lead/
     
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    IN 2016 AMERICANS VOTED SAYING TRUMP SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.

    AMERICANS MISSPOKE. WE MEANT SHOULDN'T.
     
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    OMG Just like the Ribbentrop- Molotov PAC. That led to disaster also.
     
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    If there was nothing to worry about there would be no harangue
     
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    That is funny and sad all in one.
     
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    Yes they most certainly are. Trump has brought a significant number of dollars to NATO. I bet Putin is just elated! Ukraine resistance is finally getting arms from us. Bet Putin is overjoyed. Ukraine was invaded on Obama's watch.....he did nothing. Why didn't that upset leftists then?
     
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    I, of course, have an answer, but no B.S. answer.
     
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    Brookings is very conservative and they don't like Trump either.
     
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    I see, and you are going to keep your real answer secret from the rest of us.

    Which means you don't have a rational reason for supporting Trump, not after Monday, anyway. Any supporter of Trump today is also a supporter of Putin. Not once have you criticized Trump for his treasonous performance on Monday.
     
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    What about the Obama Putin alliance that actually happened.

    In March, 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone asking Russian Ambassador Medvedev
    for time — “particularly with missile defense” — until I'm in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
    “I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
    “This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
    “I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
    President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone

    Months after Obama reported to Putin, Russia solidified its alliance with Syria and sent Russian war craft to the middle eastern nation.

    Two years later, Putin annexed the Crimea and then set his sightsa on the Ulkraine.

    Obama was a moron and a traitor - history proves it

     
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    Of course I have a reason for supporting Trump, but I'm not going to waste it by throwing it into your manure pit.
     
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    So is George Will so they say. Juan McCamnesty even said he was conservative. It's just cover for establishment.
     
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    Funny that you don't see a constant attack by the free press/news on the President. I seem to remember this, how soon the Left forgets and this was but one news organization. Trump is fighting five.


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    No way is Putin going to accept. Putin has Trump over a barrel. Stupidly, Trump wanted a secret session with Putin. That was unbelievably ill-advised, meaning it was against the advice of Trump's advisors.

    Knowing how the former KGB agent operates, I am reasonably certain Putin has a recording of their two hour private meeting. On the other hand, the Americans are in the dark. Our SecState, SecDef, Trump's NSA, Trump's DNI, and the Pentagon have no idea what took place in that meeting, and the White House is silent on the subject. But Putin knows.

    Russia can put its own spin on what took place, and there is not a damn thing we can do about it. All this because of Trump's naive, brainless request with which Putin was happy to comply.

    Republicans keep telling us we will find out sooner or later what took place. That is a remarkably imbecilic viewpoint. The translator will not tell us. That is not her job and a subpoena, forcing her to testify, would be setting a horrible precedent. That leaves Donald. Only Donald can tell us what he talked about.

    Going back to June 2015 when Donald announced his candidacy, he has not been able to give us a straight story in three years. He is proud of his ability to lie. He calls it "truthful hyperbole," and it is a tactic he uses on a daily basis.

    Yeah, sure, we will find out what Trump agreed to. It will be Trump's version of truthful hyperbole.

    Why in the world would Putin throw away this advantage by accepting an invitation to Trump's house?

    Once again, Trump thinks all Americans have the intellectual capacity of his fan base.
     
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    Grow up. You repeat my posts, but you don't question a thing. My comments directly come from the free press you can't question.
     
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    :roflol::roll: o_O Honestly, you are very funny.

    “This is my last election … After my election I will have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.

    That is not an Obama/Putin alliance. That is reality. :rock_slayer:
     
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    Trump loyalist, House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy, chastised Donald Trump for inviting Russian President Vladimir Putin to Washington, saying Sunday that some members of the President's administration should consider quitting if Trump won't listen to their advice.

    Wow!

    “It can be proven beyond any evidentiary burden that Russia is not our friend and they tried to attack us in 2016,” Gowdy told host Bret Baier. “So the president either needs to rely on the people that he has chosen to advise him, or those advisers need to reevaluate whether or not they can serve in this administration. But the disconnect cannot continue.”

    Double wow!

    Trump's red herring -- the invitation to Putin for a second summit -- is backfiring on him. Americans are now wise to this infantile tactic. He used it once too often.

    The incompetent Trump is begging to be impeached.
     
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    Listening to the advice of presidential administration has resulted in many millions of innocent men, women, and children being raped, tortured and murdered. So "boo-hoo" to those who threaten to quit. Stop dilly-dallying and do it. I am sure there are many competent and qualified men and women who will be willing to take over.
     

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