1 House Republican's chilling warning on Trump and Russia

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  1. Margot2

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    Are you concerned about Trump being manipulated by Putin? Are you comfortable with Trump denigrating our intelligence service and the press? Do you find this unthinkable? Do you think Trump is strong now?

    1 House Republican's chilling warning on Trump and Russia ...



    22 hours ago · In a New York Times op-ed --- headlined "Trump Is Being Manipulated by Putin. What Should We Do?" --- Texas Republican Rep. Will Hurd writes of this week's summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin:

    (CNN) -- In a New York Times op-ed --- headlined "Trump Is Being Manipulated by Putin. What Should We Do?" --- Texas Republican Rep. Will Hurd writes of this week's summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin:

    "The president's failure to defend the United States intelligence community's unanimous conclusions of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and condemn Russian covert counterinfluence campaigns and his standing idle on the world stage while a Russian dictator spouted lies confused many but should concern all Americans.

    By playing into Vladimir Putin's hands, the leader of the free world actively participated in a Russian disinformation campaign that legitimized Russian denial and weakened the credibility of the United States to both our friends and foes abroad."


    That's a wow. Even Republicans with a long record of criticism directed at Trump --- which is a near-total overlay with members who are retiring --- haven't gone as far as Hurd does here, suggesting that Trump is being worked as an asset to Russia. The American president. Being actively manipulated by a foreign government with something short of altruistic goals.

    Hurd's op-ed is all the more chilling because before he came to Congress in 2014, he was a CIA operative from 2002 to 2009. This isn't some random House member spouting off to get some attention and distance himself from Trump in a swing district.

    This is a guy who knows of what he speaks. And he is now convinced of what was totally unthinkable even a year ago. (Worth noting: Hurd is in a very swing-y district; Hillary Clinton won it by 4 points by 2016 and he is a major target for Democrats this fall.)

    Writes Hurd: "Over the course of my career as an undercover officer in the C.I.A., I saw Russian intelligence manipulate many people. I never thought I would see the day when an American president would be one of them."

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    http://www.abc-7.com/story/38692012/1-house-republicans-chilling-warning-on-trump-and-russia
     
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    We need a lot more of this. Trump is committing treason by undermining NATO and praising Putin. This is one area where words truly matter.
     
  3. Margot2

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    I agree with you 100%

    "Without action, we risk losing further credibility in international negotiations with both our friends and foes on critical trade deals, military alliances and nuclear arms."

    Read between the lines even a little bit and Hurd's message becomes clear: Republicans, it's time for us to do more than say we disagree with Trump's fence-sitting on whether or not Russia meddled in the 2016 election.

    There are real consequences to sitting on the sidelines here.

    A possible reorganizing of geopolitics in ways that are both disadvantageous to Republicans but dangerous to the country as a whole.

    Hurd's op-ed then is meant as a clanging alarm, a wake-up call for his Republican colleagues. Now is not the time to cower in political fear, Hurd is saying.

    Now is not the time to think of parochial concerns when we have a President in the White House who is being actively manipulated by the president of Russia.
     
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    It shouldn't come as a surprise a Trump hater would write an Op-Ed reflecting his bias.

    Has every right to do so.

    Means nothing.
     
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    I agree, words matter. Which is something the propaganda writers in the NDP should start thinking about.
     
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    You mean Republicans who are courageous and put the country before political party? Those people?

    Even the conservative think tank Brooking Institute hates Trump.
     
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    Your comebacks are equivalent to Trump saying "I'm not a puppet, you're a puppet." I get better debate from 10 year olds.
     
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    One of the reasons why PF provides an Ignore Function is so that the 10 years can be effectively ignored when the adults are having a discussion.
     
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    Getting NATO to spend more is undermining them in what warped reality?
     
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    Who cares about Brookings?

    A couple of Trump hating Republicans mean nothing. I note how desperate the hard left is by trying to claim these couple of people represent a "chilling" warning.

    Did you even take a moment to learn about Hurd? A millisecond?

    Just more hyperbole click bait for the target audience.
     
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    In an American hating globalist mind, NATO countries should feel free to fleece America because of all the wealth America has stolen from the world.
     
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    Or it can be used to hide from 10 year old's who prove to be more adult than they are.
     
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    Openly talking about not honoring article 5 of the NATO Treaty is.

    Congress entered this treaty and it is Trump's SWORN DUTY to uphold it.
     
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    He is a puppet on a RU string and it's obvious to an critical thinker.
    ^^^^^This!!!! This is no longer a Republican party, it's the Birther Trump party.
     
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    The Republican party will eventually turn on Trump just as they turned against Joe McCarthy.
     
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    The Democrat Party will eventually turn on Hillary Clinton.......................
























    Oh wait............already happened. :banana:
     
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    I hope you are right but many true conservatives have now left the party......I think it will sink much lower before it turns around.
     
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    Adults have the right to change their minds.

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    We should invade, right away!!
     
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    Many true war mongering neocons like Hillary and Nuland
     
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    Of course they do.

    If you failed to note, I said Hurd had a right to his opinion.

    It would be adult of you to have noted that.
     
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    Well... I still haven't ignore you... or @ThorInc... or anyone else for that matter :love:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you do. What are you debating with them... Super Mario? :love:
     
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    No, we're not duty bound to anything. This is what the framers feared, and it's the same reason the League of Nations wasn't approved of, even at home. When you are DUTY bound to something, we are brought into the European war, which the Europeans no longer even have to be serious about fighting due to article 5.

    Do you want your fellow brothers and sisters in arms to die on European soil for a third time? I do not. We were brought into WW1/WW2 against our will. This time, we should assert our will to protect the greatest treasure America has: The blood of its citizens.

    America has to stand firm against the whiners who want us to devote logistical military operations to an inevitable conflict that will only grow larger.
     
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    I'm not worried about Trump being manipulated, he is a great manipulator himself. Just look how he has manipulated the left into showing their true colors.
     

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