1 House Republican's chilling warning on Trump and Russia

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That $141 million donation came from someone who had NOTHING TO DO with the Uranium company for THREE YEARS prior to the sale.

    FACTS expose your gullible belief in DEBUNKED alt right DISINFORMATION.
     
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    So that would have been St Reagan who was responsible? ;)
     
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    3 million German soldiers died on the Eastern Front fighting Russians compared to 10 million Russian soldiers who were killed.

    The only time the Wehrmacht was defeated on the battlefield during WW ll was when they were superiorly outnumbered.

    After the war all German officers who were in U.S. or British custody were debriefed and all were asked "why do you think Germany lost the war ?"
    The most frequent answer was...
    A corporal ran the war.
    Germany didn't start fighting a total war until 1942 and by then it was to late, the war was lost.

    Russia, UK and the USA fought a total war from day one.
    The USA has only fought two wars as total war, the American Civil War and WW ll.

    What if America hadn't participate in the war in Europe ?

    What if ???

    Those what ifs?

    The United States since 1900 has had a war plan to fight a war against almost any country.

    War Plan Red was war against the UK including Canada.
    War Plan Gold was war against France.

    The fuse for war in the Pacific ( Imperial Japan vs. USA ) was lit in 1905. War with Japan was inevitable. In 1924 the United States adopted War Plan Orange that was written up by two Marine Corps Majors. It was Plan Orange that was used in the Pacific that defeated Japan.

    Japan had its war plan which required the German Mandate Islands (Micronesian Islands in the Central Pacific) To get those islands Japan declared war on Germany in 1915.

    Japan's war plan was to conduct the mother of all naval battles in the Central Pacific that would have resulted in America suing for peace. . Because of Plan Orange, that battle never took place.

    Plan Orange called for the Philippine Islands being expendable and to allow Japan to occupy the Philippine Islands. The U.S. Navy never intended sending its fleet to rescue McArthur's army in the P.I.'s. The mother of all naval battles never happened.

    FDR was a liberal and all liberals are interventionist and warmongers. Can't you tell with all of the Russia Russia Russia going on with Democrats in America ?

    By 1938 FDR had decided that America would go to war against Nazi Germany and in 1939 War Plan Rainbow was adopted for war in North Africa and Europe. It was Plan Rainbow that FDR and Churchill adopted and used against Germany and Italy.

    What if America didn't enter the war in Europe on December 8th, 1941 ?
    How long would have England held out before suing for peace then Germany could have put 100% of its war machine on the Eastern front ?

    What ifs...
     
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    Article V does not and constitutionally could not require the United States to commence war if a NATO member is attacked. For example, if Montenegro were attacked by Serbia. A congressional declaration of war would be necessary to defend a NATO member from aggression under the Declare War Clause of the U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 8, clause 11.


    But Article 11 of NATO, a direct descendant of Article 43, paragraph 3 of the United Nations Treaty, clarifies that any use of the armed forces by NATO parties in carrying out Article 5 must be in accord with their respective constitutional processes: “…Treaty…provisions [shall be] carried out by the Parties in accordance with their respective constitutional processes.” For the United States, that means Congress must enact a declaration of war before the President may employ the armed forces to defend a NATO Member from external aggression. Article 5 is not and could not be made to be self-executing— even by amending NATO. The United States Supreme Court held in Reid v. Covert (1956) that treaties are subordinate to the Constitution. The Declare War Clause may not be circumvented by any treaty whatsoever.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/25/nato-article-5-law-bows-power/
     
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    Who's the enemy ?

    Because Hillary lost, Russia became the enemy ?

    You know damn well if Hillary had won there would have been no Russia Russia Russia or Mueller witch hunts.

    Guess what ? Posting fake news on Facebook is not a crime. It seems Zuckerberg and his stockholders profited from the Russians meddling in our elections.

    How many hundreds of millions did the Clinton's crime syndicate profit from the Russians ?

    Which administration signed off selling Russia 20% of America's uranium ? Uranium is used for making nuclear weapons !!! If Russia is the enemy, wouldn't that have been treason ?

    We could bring up "Hanoi" Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Tom Hayden, the leadership of the counterculture movement during the Vietnam war who gave aid and comfort to the enemy.
     
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    :roflol:

    Thank you for providing that legal citation PROVING that I am RIGHT again!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah... 16 maybe... not 10 :)
     
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    People keep claiming the Clinton Russian link but I have never seen any proof

    As for the Facebook thing. Facebook itself is acting on the fake news speakers
     
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    THIS is DUMB:
    Margot2 said:
    No yellowcake has been exported from the US.

    Russia doesn't have control over 20% of US uranium.

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    THESE Are what are known as the KNOWN FACTS:


    Which was easily DEBUNKED, with the ACTUAL FACTS:



    Once again, for the UMPTEENTH TIME:

    Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html







    Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show

    After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

    The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.




    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show



    See the difference, yet? :)
     
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    Once again, for the UMPTEENTH TIME:

    Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html







    Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show

    After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

    No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

    The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

    Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.




    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
     
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    The cash to the Clinton Foundation came from Canadian philanthropist Frank Guistra... who also sat on the board of the Clinton Foundation.
     
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    DEBUNKED for the UMPTEENTH time in Post #177 above.


    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...rump-and-russia.537946/page-9#post-1069385005
     
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    DEBUNKED for the UMPTEENTH time in Post #177 above.


    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...rump-and-russia.537946/page-9#post-1069385005
     
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    Making a treaty that binds America to a broad ideological commitment rather than seeking a proportional response based on individual circumstances would be treasonous. We are not the United States of NATO.
     
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    another swamp rat sticks his head out of the whack a mole hole.
     
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    The Treaty obligations of the USA become the Law of the Land once they are ratified by Congress.

    Therefore NATO Treaty Article 5 is a legal requirement for America to uphold.

    Failure to do so by the BLOTUS would be an impeachable offense.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    EXACTLY!!!!!!
     
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    Go ahead and impeach the POTUS if you can.
     
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    The abject failure of the lickspittle Republicans in Congress to uphold their Oath of Office is not my problem.

    Given the polling and the mood of the nation the odds are they will be looking for other means of employment after November.
     
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    Don't hold your breath.
     
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    I don't think he is worried at all........November 2018 will speak loudly unless the Russians/Trump rig another set of elections.
     
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    It wasn't Trump who ORDERED the INTEL STAND DOWN, was it? Der...
     
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    Obama did not want to put his thumb on the scale after Mitch/Paul threatened to cry wolf. Who knew they were on the RU dole at the time? Obama was respecting the constitution.
     
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