1 House Republican's chilling warning on Trump and Russia

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  1. Heartburn

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    They don't understand that it was not PC America that elected him. It was fed up America.
     
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    AMEN!!!
     
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    At the very least I certainly could.
     
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    We have reason for concern when the traitor-in-chief is giving Putin what Monica gave Bill...wouldn't ya say?

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    Homophobic memes aside ... What has Trump given Putin ... you know, in exchange for the US presidency?
     
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    Yeah, the word "war" in the citation (law) seemed to be the catch all.
     
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    Do you realize how much of our economy is in aircraft, weapons, and weapon systems that we sell to allies? It's over $2Trillion a year. That's lots of American jobs, lots of American retirement investments, and lots of economic impact. We don't sell our aircraft, weapons and weapon systems to those that are not our allies. They buy from Russia. If we alienate our allies, they have a choice to buy from someone else, like China. We're stronger when we can deter aggression, not only for ourselves, but also with our allies. That's exactly why we have NATO.

    We cannot be Finland or Switzerland. We have a different niche in the world. We're the superpower, until China takes that title from us, which looks to be sooner, rather than later.

    If you want to strengthen our competitors, dropping out of NATO, alienating our allies, and an isolationist attitude will do just that. Why would those countries continue to buy aircraft, weapons and weapon systems from us, when we're imposing tariffs on allies, our leader is belligerent to their leaders, and they can buy elsewhere?
     
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    But it's China who has been meddling in our elections going back to the 1990's making huge political donations to the DNC and the Clinton's.

    And what about the Mexican government meddling in our elections especially in California.
     
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    To make it simple for you, RELEVANCE (all encompassing term). Obama broke Russia's back financially, there economy is smaller than Texas.
     
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    Russia's back wasn't in great shape long before Obama. I would hope that at some point we might get on friendlier terms with the Bear. I hope it is in my lifetime.
     
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    Hmmm yes and they have done the same here but that does not address the fake news bit you were repeating about Clinton
     
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    We can do that without rolling over and exposing our throats.
     
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    The Clinton's and the DNC = Chinagate.

    Remember Chinagate ?

    The Chinagate fundraising scandal was a campaign finance controversy in 1996 in which the Clinton's and the DNC illegally took money from foreign governments (Chi-Coms) and military establishments (PLA).

     
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    Asking NATO to contribute their fair share is “undermining NATO” to you?? WTF?
     
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    Some moron on TV says it and they rush here to repeat it.
     
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    Wow, did you miss everything else Trump has said of late? He openly expressed doubt he would respond to an invocation of Article 5 of the Treaty.
     
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    I think our throat is pretty well protected.
     
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    Actual EVIDENCE refutes your bogus alt right "global conspiracy" allegation.
     
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    Your feeble grasp of the subject matter leaves a great deal to be desired.
     
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    Wrong!

    You entirely missed the use of the term "OR" which utterly NEGATED your FALLACY!
     
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    Why not just move there instead since Russia seems to have everything the alt right BLOTUS supporters admire like an authoritarian despot in charge aggressively invading the borders of other nations, brutal killing of members of the media and rampant homophobia.
     
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    The word "or" was only used two times in the statue.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

    Enemy of the United States Law and Legal Definition
    According to 50 USCS § 2204 [Title 50. War and National Defense; Chapter 39. Spoils of War], enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States;
    https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/enemy-of-the-united-states/

    Hostilities.—
    The term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/948a
     
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    In the first instance the "or" applies to an ALTERNATIVE to war thereby NEGATING your bogus allegation that treason only applies to war.

    Furthermore there is NOT MENTION of the term "hostilities" in the Treason statute.
     
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    Relevance eh? 1st demonstrate how Obama "broke" Russia's economy OK? A chart on RU GDP would be good, or maybe a chart tracking RU exports as oil is the topic and exports and profits have increased, not decreased, with ALL Obama sanctions still in place. An militarized oligarchy with a nuclear arsenal with an economy "smaller than Texas" scared the sh_it out of Obama. Red lines ... "knock it off" ... sanctions ... amounted to squat. Fun fact, part of Obama's Iran deal ... Putin got all of Irans enriched nuclear stockpiles! 1300 tons of highly enriched weapons grade material. Saving Putin billion$ and shaving years off process time. Vlad's producing hypersonic ICBMs as "storage containers". :spin:
     
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    It's July 2018, what's the Obama references about? I am not responsible for Trumpers hearing or blowing Obama dog whistles. It's obvious you are unable to counter or address my points. I am not surprised.
     
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