Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Moi621, Jul 20, 2018.

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Do YOU support this Stand Your Ground example of lethal gun defense?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

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    Sure it is. It's absolutely enough time. Cops make decisions in a split second and so should any law abiding gun owner.

    As for turning his back; let me ask you, if you had a gun pointed at you, would you turn your back or just back up?
     
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    If you cannot read body movements, and cannot tell the difference between advancing and retreating, you probably shouldn't be armed.
     
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    Aphotic Banned

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    What does this have to do with anything?

    Why do you dismiss that he has incited this before in a slobbering, dauphine, angry manner previously?
     
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    A violent, armed, deranged, slobbering and chinless freak, Drejka, has tried to incite violence over parking spaces in the past. In his fatalistic mind, he finally achieved orgasmic release of the demonic desire for bloodshed in his head, with this shooting.

    Why do you lot dismiss his past behavior? No one is saying the populace shouldn't be armed, the NRA isn't being blamed - there is no assault on the right to own firearms happening.

    This was an -unjustified- use of force that did not equal the aggression presented by a clearly deranged and fatalistic death cult demagogue who perpetuated murder over lines in pavement.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because I am able to make the distinction between the acts of a person and what I think they think.
     
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    The actions of this person says he is a fatalist who was hell bent on killing someone over a parking space.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are ignoring the reality of the events to fit your predetermined conclusion.

    Its going to be hard for you to defend your position because the evidence shows he had a legitimate and lethal threat.
     
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    I told you guys repeatedly about how a cop just got killed here in ma by a guy he hesitated on. The guy hit the cop in the head with a rock, then took his gun away from him shot him 5 times in the head and 5 in the chest and used the remaining bullets to kill a woman on her sunporch because it was fun. 3 seconds is not enough. Hes only not a threat until hes been put down by a bullet. Im so happy this thug who cant function in society has been summarily removed from it.
    As far as what I would do with a gun pointed at me, you forgot to state whether the guy pointing it at me was the guy I just assaulted. Is that a yes it was or not.
     
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    Wrong. I have condemned the shove, but I also equally condemn the reaction of the shooter. I also am considering his past - something you're excusing to befit a political agenda, no doubt.
     
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    Ok, so assaulting someone with a stone in hand is not different then a shove?

    You guys have zero credibility. each case must be handled on its own merits.

    Why are you ignoring Drejka's past?
     
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    Not true. After McGlockton assaults Drejka he takes 2 steps toward Drejka on the ground. Only after McGlockton sees the gun does he stop advancing.
     
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    Theres your problem.

    You are considering his past when it has no bearing on the events recorded here and investigated by the police.
     
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    no its not a human skull is not impervious to either a stone and concrete. Do you agree?
     
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    Ok, so a person's history has nothing to do with this? Despite the fact he has a record of threatening violence over this parking space in the past?

    It absolutely, unequivocally does, and the impending wrongful death suit will absolutely bring it up. And justly so.
     
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    Complete difference. A shove is a shove. Willingly picking up a weapon and smashing it into someone's head is an entirely different form of assault. Stop being so obtuse. You're really bending into a pretzel here; it's preposterous.
     
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    Dude, your defense of the Black thug who initiated the attack is racially motivated. And sadly, so many Blacks and others have this same "group-think."

    So let's look at your biases:

    Can anyone else but Whites be true racists and bigots?

    Are there any White advocacy groups in the US that are not racist?

    Are groups like the NAACP, La Raza, New Black Panthers, Mexican Mafia, and CAIR racist?

    Is the National Association for the Advancement of White People racist?
     
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    bs this was a shove onto concrete. This can kill a human easily. Try to downplay it, it tells me Im winning.
     
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    I love how you play it up, calling it violent assault. It shows you’re fully aware of the astronomical disparity between getting punched or pushed and being shot to death but because you have a worthless agenda to push you’ll use the most exaggerated language possible to make it seem like being shot to death is a sensible response to a scuffle.
     
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    The state can prosecute all it wants but it will never be able to disprove your assertion that you were afraid for your life. Shooters will be exonerated every time.
     
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    You are intentionally ignoring reality to push your revolting agenda. Discussing this with you has no value. Your mind is welded shut and you like it that way.

    Get thee behind me.
     
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    Seems like you disagree with the sheriff who investigated the incident

    "This is a violent push, this wasn't a shove, this wasn't just a tap," Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a Friday press conference.

    "He felt, after being slammed to the ground, that the next thing was that he was going to be further attacked by McGlockton," Gualtieri said

    "Markeis wouldn't be dead if Markeis didn't slam this guy to the ground," Gualtieri said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/us/florida-stand-your-ground-fatal-shooting/index.html

    How is your opinion superior to his?
     
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    I didn’t see any steps, but even if they happened you just spoke the words that lose you the argument.

    He stopped advancing. At that time any reason to shoot him vanished and it became murder to do so.
     
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    Its almost as if you don't read my posts.
    I guess that's what happens when you want to avoid a truth you disagree with.
     
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    How is his superior to mine? All he did was restate the same trash you’ve been spewing while still having no way to know what was really in the shooters mind.

    What we do know was that before being shot to death, Markeis made it clear with his body language that he was not going to proceed with an attack.

    That makes the shooting a murder, and no self serving sherrif defending the decision not to prosecute is going to change that.
     
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    Your posts are increasingly substance free just like the one I’m quoting now. If you have a worthless point to make I’m all ears, but we both know it’s just a regurgitation of something you have already said.

    The bottom line is that you just don’t care that the law opens the door to people being legally murdered. You’re so pro gun rights that you’ll never speak against the law no matter how high the avoidable body count gets.
     

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