A lot of it is, for better or worse, public info. If you knew where to look, you could find my name, my wifes name, our address, phone number, size, dimension, and general layout of our house, annual tax bill, whether or not it's current, and much more. And that's not some deep place on the "dark web", that is a government run website accessible to anyone with an Internet connection.
Thus meaning that, with things as they are now, any random stranger would already be able to run a background check on yourself. Thus what is the reason for opposing the NICS system being made available to the general public?
It is very easy to force a private sale to require a background check. Sell the gun via an online auction site. Then the gun must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee in the buyer's state, who will run the background check. Or, make the NICS available for public inquiry. Not to release any private information, only to approve or refuse the sale. Using it would not be mandatory but it would be free, paid for in the Federal budget.
I should have been more clear, I was referring to a private seller who wants to know the buyer is cleared on NICS. If a private person wishes to force a background check, the seller can do that by selling legally across state lines. As per Federal law the seller ships to an FFL in the buyer's state. The FFL runs the check and charges the buyer a fee for processing the transaction. Happens thousands of times every day. Though the reason it happens is sellers wanting a larger base of potential buyers, such as the biggest gun auction site provides. Of course a private seller who felt that way would be ignoring local buyers. I agree if a law was passed that required local sellers to have local buyers do the deal via an FFL or otherwise pass an NICS check, it would be impossible to enforce. No way I am in favor of writing more unenforceable laws that only matter to us honest folks for the inconvenience of them.
It's easy to go to a local gun store and have the potential buyer have a background ran, if they refuse, then don't sell to them. Better yet, if you're desperate for money, take the firearm to the local gun store and sell to them. I have never sold a firearm to someone I did not know well
We don't know that. As there are no actual proposals out there for how this might work (aside from DNC talking points), we don't know what info might be required.
That's how it works now. You can't sell to someone outside your home state without going through an FFL.
And how do we know the owner or the magical mystery code didn't steal it, or use granny's ID, or a wallet they found on the side of the road? It's GIGO. Garbage in, Garbage out.
That's not completely untrue. But at least as things there is a not insignificant barrier to entry to doing so insofar as real bg checks available are not cheap. Now, if you have a stalker who has a job, or a father-in-law to be with a little disposable cash, you may still have your background run without your knowledge or consent. But some weirdo who still lives in their parents bedroom is not going to sit there running hundreds of complete strangers just for shits and giggles.
except that is rare and the real reasons for pushing UBCs are far more nefarious than the faith based claims you make
why are you engaging in anti semitic nonsense? I guess you ignore that the anti gun scum in Californian political offices wanted to confiscate normal capacity magazines.
you dont think the Jews are coming to take your guns? that's a relief. who is it then? the Commies? The UN? the Martians?
Check their ID, the same way as we did in prior to 2013 in Colorado. What would make them go to an FFL?
I'm not going to give my ID to a random stranger. Especially if it has my SSN or DL# on it. Now, maybe I'm a bit hypocritical as I would never sell to someone who did not have a CCW, but that ID contains neither a SSN, DL#, or, in my state at least, even an address. At least not a stranger, a friend or family member is a different thing. Then again, I've never sold a weapon privately nor would I unless I was in dire financial straits. Though, mostly by coincidence, every weapon I ever bought was a private sale. (Lest you accuse me of trying to hide a disqualifying condition, I have a current and valid CCW, it just worked out that way. Wasn't done with any ulterior motives in mind.) I'm not a collector. I don't have 20, or 30, or 50 guns. I have 3. Each serves a different, specific purpose. I would like 2 more, each of which would serve an additional different, specific purpose, though one could be a different upper for my AR to allow hunting larger game without being unusually cruel, which could be served by the upper, or could equally be served by a larger caliber hunting rifle, which ironically is probably less expensive than a different upper.
Name, address and 90%+ have the person's social security number and drivers license number. Please post that information about yourself on this forum to demonstrate you were being truthful in your message.
You still have the option of going to an FFL and giving them your ID. There is no requirement to use the private sale process at all. In Colorado I had no,problem showing a seller my Colorado driver's license to prove I was a state resident, which was necessary for the private sale, or to show my CCW, as some sellers would sell to anyone without one. I would typically already have exchanged emails with them. Would you use this process to sell guns with friends and family? No one says you have to buy a gun from a perfect stranger.
California requires private sellers to go through FFLs for all gun sales. Doesn't really stop anything--the San Bernardino killers, for example, bought their guns from a private purchase without going through an FFL. All that does is harass law-abiding gun sellers. It does nothing to stop the people who are selling guns illegally. There is no real indication that criminals are buying a significant amount of guns from law-abiding strangers through private sales. It's an anti-gun myth designed to sell UBC to us. In another post, I've outlined a system (similar to Tom Coburn's system) that would keep private information safe, but still allow voluntary use of NICS for private sales without having to go through an FFL.
I can't imagine why any sane person would be against background checks for purchasing a firearm. But there are many insane and indoctrinated people out there who think it reduces freedom.
