South Africa to change constitution to legalize taking away white farmers' land

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  1. Dutch

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    Indulge me? :hug:
     
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    Ah yes... sorry about that - I forgot the word Liberal is derogatory word, and to call someone Liberal is to denigrate and belittle him/her. Forgive me :hug:
     
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    I have often wondered why the education system has been so slow to adopt distance learning via the internet. There are a great many teachers who are excellent at getting the lessons across and if they were available online the cost of education could be reduced. With a system like this it would not matter if the local teachers were less than excellent. They would allow the kids to view the lesson and then answer questions and verify that they had learned the topic. For those that didn't they can rewatch the same lesson after school or at home.
     
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    https://africacheck.org/factsheets/geography-migration/

     
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    Thank you for conceding that you are confused by your own puerile drivel.
     
  6. Pollycy

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    I certainly hope you're right about the ANC setting themselves up for "FAILURE" in the 2019 elections. Interesting that anyone like Ramaphosa, who you esteem so highly, would be blind to this alleged effect on Black South Africans (as well as Whites, of course). So, Ramaphosa wants to 'shoot himself in the foot' with his confiscation-without-compensation, Nazi-esque plans, by alienating Black South Africans? Wouldn't it have been wonderful if the German Hitler had planned something equally stupid?

    Perhaps I've been wrong to compare Ramaphosa with successful overbearing Black African tyrants, like Idi Amin, Mugabe, and numerous others. If "Rammy" really plans to harm both South African Blacks and South African Whites, he's setting himself up for "FAILURE"... just as your new spin suggests....

    But, nobody benefits?! Not even Julius "Juju" Malema? His "Economic Freedom Fighters" Party was the FIRST to examine the possibilities of manipulating the constitution to allow confiscation of White South Africans' property -- all for the 'good' of South Africa, of course. Maybe Juju doesn't want anyone else to hog the limelight for this forthcoming land-grab/genocide, so he's dissing Rammy's initiatives. Maybe Juju wants to be the next big Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe all by himself, because it's well-known that Juju's EFF Party is in head-to-head competition with Rammy's ANC....

    So, pretend you're a White South African... which predator do you prefer to kill you -- the EFF, or, the ANC? :roll: . If there's some big difference between these two 'Black Hitlers", Juju and Rammy, please inform the rest of us....
     
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    This guy is really filled with hate for white people
     
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    You might as well put "Thank you for conceding" into your sig! :roflol:
     
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    Malema is the South African equivalent of your beloved BLOTUS when it comes to making dumb racist remarks and it got him thrown out of the ANC.

    So he started his own extremist party called the EFF, AKA the Economic Freedom Front, and thus avoided being tainted with most the corruption that epitomized the Mabeke and Zuma eras of fiscal malfeasance. That doesn't mean he is squeaky clean, far from it, but he is perceived as an outsider instead.

    In what seems bizarre from our perspective, but is probably within the norm for democracies elsewhere in the world, Malema has managed to gain a semblance of power by aligning his party with the opposition DA party at the provincial (state) level. If the ANC were to fail to win an outright majority in 2019 they would be forced into a coalition with the EFF.

    So Malema speaks for the black racists and appeals to the lowest common denominator while trying to leverage his way back into power. At this stage he is still a side show but he might become a factor if the ANC needs votes in parliament and/or a coalition partner.

    Since you insist upon remaining so abjectly ignorant of the subject matter of your own thread topic that speaks poorly of your motivations.

    But that is entirely a problem of your own making!
     
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    So, in essence, "Juju" Malema and Cyril "Rammy" Ramaphosa are 'chips off the same block'. Got it!

    If I'm a White South African it would comfort me greatly to think that instead of being impoverished and run-off by Juju's thieves and murderers, I'll merely be stolen from and run-off by Rammy's Black Nazis. Whew! What a relief! I was worried there for a moment....
     
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    Yes, I think the internet could be a big help in various ways. Elsewhere I've argued that one of these benovolent billionaires ought to donate a couple of hundred million to set up a non-profit with the aim of providing, in a couple of dozen major world languages, sets of fully-digitally-resourced curriculum materials, each tailored to the national curriculum of specific countries. (In other words, it needs to be easy for a teacher in a particular country to use -- you need to be able to access 'Mathematics, Year 4, Zambia' and not have to work your way through the materials -- printable, CAI, videos -- picking and choosing. It has to be usable by a not-very-computer-literate teacher right out of the box.)

    Actually, most of the work has already been done. It mainly needs to organize what's there, plus do translations. Open Source software has shown that we now have, on a world scale, thousands of talented young people who are willing to contribute time for free on such projects. This pool of talent and energy needs to be tapped.

    The hardest part is supplying the hardware, but. ... have you heard of the One Per Child project? It seems to have stalled a bit, but it's the right idea. The main problem is providing the software, but that ought to be possible.
     
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    Wakanda duh.
     
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    They'd be colonizing Mars as we speak!
     
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    Since you are totally lacking of actual facts, I will lend a hand. Read if you are able to comprehend big words.
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/africa/1992902-genocide-khoisan-people.html
     
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    :roflol:

    Obviously you are PROJECTING your own inability to "comprehend big words" onto others since your link SUBSTANTIATES exactly what I posted!


    So all of the above PROVES that I was 100% correct when I said that it was the Khoisan, who are not Bantu, were there when the first white settlers arrived.


    Next time I recommend that you ask someone to explain your links to you first before you post them so then you won't end up embarrassing yourself! ;)
     
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    Thank you for that link. I was not aware of that part of South African history.
     
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    Absolutely right, just as they are in North America.
    Isn't what is moral and just in South Africa today -- the indigenous people reclaiming their country -- also moral and right in North America?
     
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    Why don't you give us an amplified recitation of all the 'invasions' participated in by all the 'invaders' since the dawn of human history? Oh, and add to your enumeration of all these 'invaders' which ones of them took slaves among those they invaded!

    Example: look at those mean, old Romans! They 'invaded' Northern Europe and the English Isles, took over the land, murdered thousands of people, took huge numbers of slaves, and inflicted their own language and culture everywhere they could. My own German ancestors were crushed under the heels of the Roman Empire, but where is the outrage? Shouldn't we, the descendants of Britannia, Gaul, and Germania, be entitled to go into present-day Italy and steal everything in sight?

    Me? I'd settle for a nice little Tuscan villa.... Where is our 'Ramaphosa' who can make this happen?! :clapping:

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    There is an appeal for distance learning, and for those genuinely interested in learning, it can be a great thing. The most obvious problem lies in the fact that Uncle Google is only a click away. Try a quick search for online answers to test questions.

    A person might assume that most kids wouldn't do that, but in today's world, it's SOP. I was amused when I read that Algeria had shut off its internet during school testing. The problem is huge and not at all limited to online classes, but online classes means students are not monitored, and therefore cheating is essentially accepted as how it's done. Some colleges make students come to the school to be monitored while testing. That's good, but not a fail safe. Public schools often require students to turn in phones or other devices, but you'd be surprised at how many phones those rascals can have.

    Something else to consider is that many public school teachers supplement their salaries by teaching online courses. These course are almost identical to the in-class courses. The idea that online classes are created by superior teachers is wishful thinking. Even the courses created by the big corps like Pearson are just glorified Power Points and based on the principal of binge and purge.

    Distance learning is another type of online class. Students from anywhere they can connect are part of another in-class course. They can interact with the teacher or other students. Again, this works for students who are seriously interested in learning, but teachers frequently opt out of this because the level of disruptions makes it difficult to get through a normal lesson.

    We're way off topic here, but I also want to add that we tend to assume education is the sole duty of an external system. We tend to see it as something dictated on the national level. We often blame education and educators for the flaws in this system, and refuse to acknowledge that most students have only a fleeting understanding of why they are there. The home environment is crucial in a child's attitude towards education, yet most adults seem to see education as nothing more that employment preparation. We end up with a system that stifles curiosity and critical thinking.
     
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    Agreed! Parents who do not value education are doing their own children out of a decent education IMO.
     
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    The thing is, for children, there has to be a human connection: a teacher, a mentor, in the classroom, even if all the kids are watching a large video screen or interacting with a CAI program on their laptop.

    In the early days of computers, several places tried out something called the Plato system -- this was before the microcomputer. It was done via online terminals. There were high hopes for it, but .... It couldn't replace a live teacher. Now ... fifty years later ... we've gotten much better.

    We could imagine laptops with Watson-like capacity, voice interaction, etc. That would no doubt be a huge step up for many kids in the Third World.

    But ... there has to be a live teacher. It's not only a question of organizing seven-year-olds, but of providing a human model, someone who can fill the emotional need that kids have for an adult model/mentor who cares for them and encourages them.

    That's a problem that can be solved ... it just takes money, and maybe a big global drive to get young people in the advanced part of the world to spend a year or two doing Peace Corps-like teaching in the Third World -- their lack of experience could in part be compensated for by a computerized education system.
     
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    That was actually what I was advocating. The lessons are provided online to the classroom and then the local teacher is there to answer questions and check homework.
     
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    There are actually hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions, of idealistic young people graduating from college every year. Why can't the UN or some similar body organize something like the Peace Corps, but drawn from an international pool, to volunteer to teach for a year or two, in conjunction with a comprehensive computerized education system? There are many private charities which do something like this now, but to teach, you would need something like this automated system. Sounds like a job for Mr Soros or Mr Gates.
     
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    Yup!

    Because you would never catch the Koch brothers doing anything this philanthropic for poor children in Africa.
     

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