FORMER FOX NEWS ANALYST SAYS NETWORK 'PROSTITUTES' FOR TRUMP'S AGENDA

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Meanwhile, the propaganda machines for the DNC are ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN-MSNBC-NPR-PBS-NYT-LAT-Newsweek-Time.
     
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    Do you ever have better than mimicking? It has not gone unnoticed that you routinely post rhetoric with no factual backup.
     
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    Facts?

    Just listen to ABC-NBC-CBS-CNN-MSNBC-PBS-NPR-NYT-LAT-Newsweek-Time and it is evident that they the arm of the DNC and a propaganda machine?
     
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    10 seconds i found this (plus time included to copy and paste)

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/
     
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    Politifact Study: Fox News Lies More Than Any Other News Network


    CNN somehow remains the most accurate news network, with 80% of the claims rated as half true or better.

    Now, what about Fox?

    Fox, it turns out, scores marginally higher than MSNBC and NBC news networks. While those two were at 44% of their claims at mostly false or worse, Fox is only at 58%. See, both politically-oriented networks do it. Fox just does it more, since that’s their business model.

    Politifact found that 39% of the claims made on the network had some basis in fact, but only 10% could be proven as true, 11% rated as ‘mostly true’ and 18% as half true. So Fox does know some truth. Just not a lot.

    http://aattp.org/politifact-study-fox-news-lies-more-than-any-other-news-network/
     
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    We are mostly on the same page with respect to the rest of your post.

    There are "hot button issues" .. Abortion, guns, illegal immigration, healthcare, and so on. The BS on both sides is fast and furious. These issues server to keep the raging masses divided and partisan such that they will continue voting either red or blue.

    The funny thing is that nothing will change on most of these issues - regardless of who gets in. The Establishment in this nation is both Red and Blue. Voting for either is a vote to maintain the status quo.

    Red Establishment is not going to ban abortion - this is political suicide.
    Healthcare - "Obamacare" - regardless of who gets in - real change is not done. The problem with our healthcare system is that it is an Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion monster. It combines the inefficiency of a bloated Gov't bureaucracy with all anti competitive practices, collusion, price fixing and monopolism of the various healthcare oligopolies.

    Did Obama try to change this ? Not one bit. Even the Koch brothers now favor universal health care .. how messed up is that ?

    READ: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-for-universal-healthcare/

    Whats this now ?? "The American Conservative" - not some left leaning think tank - is saying

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    "Well Spank my Ass and call me a redneck Martha - the American Conservative is shilling for Universal Healthcare- "Socialism"

    So whats up ? Apparently it is not just Blue that favors the dreaded "Socialism". Are you not "shocked" ?

    Given the MSM coverage of this issue your shock would be easily understood. There are powerful forces that have been peddling large amounts of influence in the hallowed halls of Washington over decades. The dude that Trump wanted as Drug Czar never made it when it came out that he was one of the fellows working with the drug companies who would write the legislation which would then be submitted to congress.

    How is it that it is "illegal" for healthcare provides to group together to get better drug prices ? Do you think this happened by chance ? Did Obama change this ?

    From time to time we do have voices calling out this practice (price fixing- Drugs). Everyone then points to that lone voices and say "LOOK LOOK - we have freedom of speech in this nation - what a good system we have" .. that lone voice is then quickly drowned out by the cacophony on the take. It is the natural outcropping of self interest and greed.

    We have a pay to play system - if you play - you get paid and everyone knows it. It is not for her good looks and charming personality that Hillary gets 250K a pop for a 15 min speech at a Wall Street banker function. It is for a job well done.. If you play, you get paid and everyone knows it.

    Would you be the one to run against a herd of stampeding bulls ? .. to shoot the goose laying the Golden eggs ?

    Every time a regulation or tax law is being made the Oligopolies are sitting at the table .. and perhaps they have a right to be there. The problem is that the person who is supposed to be representing the worker is either in the pocket of, or influence by, the oligopoly.

    It is not like the Oligopoly wins every table but, over time, table after table, the rules of the game get skewed towards the Oligopoly. How many ex congress sit on the BOD of large corporations ? How many elite bureaucrats get cushy lobbyist positions after they retire. If you play ,,, you get paid, and everyone knows it.

    Blue complains about wealth moving to the 1%. OK - great but, when has Blue ever tackled the main mechanisms by which this is happening ? When have you ever heard the MSM speak about these primary mechanisms ?

    What was interesting during the last election cycle was that - Yes - Bernie Sanders but also .. (repeat the statement in bold above) Ted Cruz ? were talking about some of the mechanisms (less specifically for Ted but still).

    None of the MSM will address these mechanisms because the international financiers who benefit from expropriating profit out of the US -legally - own the MSM. I can go into detail on these specific mechanisms if you like but this post is getting too long.

    Bottom line - The Establishment is both Red and Blue - the status quo will not change so long as the raging masses continue electing either Red or Blue.
     
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    Politifact?

    LMFAO!

    Politifact is just as bias as is ABC-NBC-CBS-CNN-MSNBC-PBS-NPR-NYT-LAT-Newsweek-Time.
     
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    " The problem with our healthcare system is that it is an Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion monster. It combines the inefficiency of a bloated Gov't bureaucracy with all anti competitive practices, collusion, price fixing and monopolism of the various healthcare oligopolies. "

    Truer words have seldom been spoken!
     
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    Funny, but seem to have a real revulsion for any site that doesn't tell you what you've decided to believe already, or one that documents its claims.
     
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    I said basically the same thing as Molon.

    You are brainwashed. It couldn't be anything else when you cheer corrupt bureaucrats for letting one political candidate off the hook for her crimes and go after the opposing candidate without evidence. It's beyond any logic whatsoever than an outright takeover of government.

    Steve
     
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    https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/5550...trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents-

    News coverage of each President.

    Clinton - 28% negative, 27% positive
    Bush - 28% negative, 22% positive
    Obama - 20% negative, 42% positive
    Trump - 62% negative, 5% positive

    Types of stories run:

    Clinton - 42% character, 58% agenda
    Bush - 35% character, 65% agenda
    Obama - 50% character, 50% agenda
    Trump - 69% character, 31% agenda



    Media Spin on Trump by each news outlet:

    https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/study-medias-trump-coverage-n
    • CNN: 93% Negative,
    • NBC: 93% Negative,
    • CBS: 91% Negative,
    • New York Times: 87% Negative,
    • Washington Post: 83% Negative,
    • Wall Street Journal: 70% Negative
    • Fox: 52% Negative
    Topics covered involving President Trump:
    • Immigration: 96% Negative,
    • Heath care: 87% Negative,
    • Russia and the Election: 87% Negative,
    • International Trade: 84%
    • Personal Background: 82%
    • Other Foreign/Defense: 82% Negative,
    • Personnel: 82% Negative,
    • Fitness for Office: 81% Negative,
    • Terrorist Threat: 70% Negative,
    • Other Domestic: 72% Negative,
    • Economy: 54% Negative,
    • All Other Topics: 82% Negative
    So basically going back to the OP, Fox covers Trump with 52% negative coverage and 48% positive, yet the OP wants to say FOX is a "prostitute for Trump's agenda".

    I find the OP very VERY disingenuous.

    Is it considered "prostitute[ing] for Trump's agenda" if you have almost 50/50 coverage?

    Is it only "acceptable" if you have 70% or more negative coverage as every single outlet besides FOX does?

    Disgusting ....
     
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    FORMER FOX NEWS ANALYST SAYS NETWORK 'PROSTITUTES' FOR TRUMP'S AGENDA

    How is this "news"?

    Did "Fixer" Cohen pay anyone $130,000 to hush up Fox's servicing Trump?

    That was money wasted.
     
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    MolonLabes powder is wet.
     
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    Who is brainwashed here? There isn't a word of truth to anything you just said.

    I can't think of any crimes that Hillary Clinton committed other than having a private server.

    Meanwhile Trump is tweeting on an unsecured phone, and his son in law is receiving classified information without a security clearance (mainly because he kept "remembering" things). TRump blurts out state secrets in meetings with Russian leaders, and much of the White House staff was walking in and out of the building with unsecured phones, not to mention taping conversations.

    Before Clinton, most of the senior staff in the Bush Administration including Libby, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Bolton etc were using third party e-mail addresses and servers for official business.

    That's all you ever had, and it isn't much considering the way you break your neck to look the other way over Trump (and Bush before him, most likely).

    As for evidence, it's all around you and documented in considerable detail. There is also the long trail of lies, deceptions, spin and obstruction that has accompanied it.
     
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    I suggest you pull your head out of the liberal sand and get a grip on reality.

    The most important part of that reality is that the media, by its OWN POLLING has the lowest level of TRUST by the people in HISTORY.

    Come the next election in Nov, SURPRISE! again. :roflol:

    Steve
     
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    Really? Are you serious?

    1) Hillary used unsecure private server for classified Emails (mishandled classified information).
    2) Hillary erased 30,000 Emails once she was exposed (destroyed evidence).
    3) Hillary destroyed server (destroyed evidence).
    4) Hillary destroyed numerous electronic devices (destroyed evidence).
     
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    This is basically the priblem with the left. I cant think of any crimes Hillary committed...other than....xxxyyyzzz blah blah...meanwhile they can think up all sorts of crimes Trump has committed why they even manufacture the evidence for the crime! You made the members point without knowing it.
     
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    And CNN and the rest of the alphabet soup boys whose primary problem with fox is that they hate competition especially successful competition. They hoonor journalistic integrity with their lips but in their hearts it is nowhere to be found.
     
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    Ralph Peters is a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel and author. Peters appeared frequently as an analyst on Fox News until March 2018 when he resigned, calling the network a "propaganda machine" for the Trump administration and accused the network of "wittingly harming our system of government for profit."
     
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    I really enjoyed the warmongering bit ... Detente = treason per CNN media personality John Brennan. I've considered that if Trump were go to war, and reinstate the draft, liberals would all flee to Canada ... again. Solid platform for 2020 IMO.
     
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    He is a neocon who would have been quite happy with ether Bush or Hillary. Trump operates outside the Neocon reference box, so Peter's isn't going to like his strategic point of view worth a damn nor will he care for those willing to defend Trumps approach.
     
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    I would say they do. I would also say that the other networks intentionally try and paint anything Trump does as evil. Neither side treats the man neutrally and just reports the news.
     

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