NASA Mars Curiosity Rover BLACKOUT

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    “Maybe they do not want that information making its way back to Earth,” he said. I would not put it past NASA – they’ve had several blackouts over the years. This is very suspicious, I think they are hiding something on Mars.”

    He might be right, but what could it be? [​IMG]

    "I find this odd seeing how the timing seems to match up with the FBI shut down of the solar observatory,” one comment read.

    Another added: “I do not trust NASA at all.”

    And a third claimed: “Very suspicious.”

    :shock: Bloody cynics! :evileye:

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    Caption: AMAZING: An artist's impression of what Mars may have looked like four billion years ago"

    On the other and it may not have. Move along please, it's only chewing gum for the brain.

    Read all about it . . .

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/we...ackout-mystery-glitch-conspiracy-frenzy-video
     
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    The Don Well-Known Member

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    The Daily Star ?

    For goodness sake, pick a halfway reliable source before you get your knickers in a bunch.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But it's based on announcement from NASA so the story is valid?
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Basod on - same way that a Chocolate Muffin is based on chocolate - yep that ingredient is in there but so are a heck of a lot of other things adulterating it

    I have very very little time for conspiracy theorists who do not both to use Occams Razor
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "
    A unknown issue is said to have occurred last Saturday, preventing the rover from beaming information back to Earth.

    The rover team has turned off all of Curiosity's science instruments while engineers investigate the glitch.

    Mission team members are also preparing to fire up the machine's backup computer, in case they need it to diagnose the issue with the main frame.

    NASA scientist Ashwin Vasavada revealed the rover remains otherwise healthy, in a statement on Wednesday.

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    "Maybe they do not want that information making its way back to Earth"

    Tyler Glockner
    "Over the past few days, engineers have been working to address an issue on Curiosity that is preventing it from sending much of the science and engineering data stored in its memory," he wrote.

    "The rover remains in its normal mode and is otherwise healthy and responsive."

    But conspiracy theorists are not convinced.
    https://www.newsllive.com/technolog...tery-glitch-sparks-conspiracy-frenzy-84026204
     
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    I think it is this!!

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    Of course

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    Lols!!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for sharing your opinion re conspiracy theorists. Now do you have anything worthwhile to say about the topic?
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Yep!

    That it is a conspiracy theory - to verify this google up "Occams Razor" and ask yourself the hard question

    Which is more likely?

    That there was a glitch or that this is what they saw??

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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you? How can you expect worthwhile comments if you don't post worthwhile threads in the first place? :cool:
     
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    The factual story is about a computer glitch on a Mars Rover that is already well beyond it's Sell By date.

    The bovine excrement that you are bleating about are the ASININE COMMENTS from a UFO hoaxer named Tyler Glockner who has ZERO CREDIBILITY and is completely IGNORANT of the actual problem related to the Rover.

    Your TABLOID source might just as well have asked for the opinion of a homeless drunk on a street corner.

    Only the gullible would believe that the whackjob's conspiracy crap over the FACTUAL information provided by NASA.

    The main computer has stopped sending data for some unknown reason. The possible reasons are that the program has failed but a reboot would have solved that so that leaves a hardware failure as the most likely cause. The Rover has been driving all over the harsh Martian terrain for the last 6 years so it is more than likely that some part of the communications hardware has ceased functioning.

    To expect that nothing would ever go wrong with the Rover is ridiculous. How many cars would survive being driven off road for 6 years without a single service and have nothing go wrong with them?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :shock: I think I've touched a raw nerve? They say that insult is the resort of someone who has run out of logic.
     
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    NASA release - "Glitch with old Mars rover"

    Daily Star - "OMFG Aliens !!!11!!!1!!!!1!1!!!!!!!!!!11!!!"

    ....and your issue is with NASA's spin and hyperbole ?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: There is no Mars rover, new or old! Jesus some people will believe anything!
     
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    The Don Well-Known Member

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    We've been through this several times. Just because you, in your ignorant feedback loop, chose not to believe that this is the case, doesn't make it so.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nor does your blind belief make it so?
     
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    :roflol:

    Now that is just beyond LUDICROUS!

    In your OP you BELIEVE that NASA is "suspiciously blacking out" the data from the Mars Rover that you are NOW alleging does NOT EXIST!

    :roflol:

    Enterprise warning klaxon: Cognitive Dissonance at Level RED! :eek:
     
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    “Scotty, beam me up“.
     
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    Remember, mine is not blind belief, I've studied this.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've read about it, you've heard about it, but you've never experienced it, so it all hinges upon whether or not you believe everything you're told by those with an agenda? Me? I need something tangible before I do.
     
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    No, we've been through this before. I have a degree in physics and astrophysics and decades of "hobbyist" activity. This means that I've had direct access in the past to signals and data which makes it clear to me that there have been unmanned probes on the moon and mars. Put simply, point receiver (in this case a radio telescope) at a particular part of Mars (or section of sky for interplanetary probes), receive a signal. Point it somewhere else, no signal.

    I have not done that for this rover, but I have done it enough in the past to be confident that we have sent probes out of Earth orbit.

    In terms of tangible evidence, we've already been over this. You said in another thread that you'd be convinced by a video if there was a human in the shot, but then immediately said that you'd still be sceptical. I'm pretty sure that there is absolutely nothing that would convince you that we've sent unmanned probes to Mars (or other planets) so there can be no tangible evidence for you.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I remember that, and I said it because it still wouldn't be provable it was recorded on Mars (think Capricorn One?), and because I could think of no way the video could be brought back to Earth anyway.
     
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    You really think that video has to be "brought back" to Earth ? The signal that you receive on your TV didn't have to be "brought" to your house, it was transmitted. If you have a satellite dish, it was transmitted via a satellite.

    What would you consider tangible evidence that an unmanned probe or rover had been sent to Mars ?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so they can receive video transmissions from Mars now, can they? I knew you'd come back with that! And all of this when we remember how often television news reports have to be truncated because of signal failures, especially those where a source is sometimes, figuratively speaking, just around the corner from the broadcasting studio? That makes your assertion even more surreal. Is there nothing you won't believe?
     
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    Regarding the highlighted bit, very rarely. If you have a satellite receiver, how often can you receive a signal ? Most people I know who have one rarely report an issue and when they do, it tends to be an issue like snow in the receiver.

    As I said, there is no need to receive "real time" video streaming. A one minute video could, if necessary, take minutes or hours to transmit and in the event that one frame is not successfully received, that frame can be re-transmitted. Regarding the Mars rover, it "burst" communicates to the orbiter which then relays the signal back to Earth.

    https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/mission/communicationwithearth/data/

    I repeat, what would you consider tangible evidence of an unmanned probe or rover having been sent to Mars ?
     
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