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How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. TexMexChef

    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

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    The State allows for the taking of human life. Your use of the word ...'homicide' is not the correct context in which the state's allowance of taking of human life is permissible.
     
    TexMexChef, Sep 24, 2018
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    Not by anyone who values human life.
     
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    That's true, homicide is the 'unlawful' taking of a life.
    Any debate would appear to be at what point after conception are any rights acquired and given protection by government.
     
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    Exactly what is the value of a human life?
     
    Ndividual, Sep 24, 2018
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    Do you value your own life?
     
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    Of course, but that doesn't answer 'my' question.
     
    Ndividual, Sep 24, 2018
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    YES !!!!, they are BOTH in HER.... :roll::roll::roll: THAT is what I've been telling you!!!!

    NO, it is NOT the man's fetus !!!! WHAT did you just determine? That if it's in the woman it's HERS....it is NOT in the man, so it is not his !!
     
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    Life only has the value others put on it....if someone got a big enough "bag of coins" they may sell, or sell out, anyone.

    If certain parties can make a profit on a good old war then they will drop the value they place on human life...

    If a corporation can knowingly make a product that kills people they have devalued life in place of profits.
     
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    Protection is given at viability and rights are given at birth.
     
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    Are you looking for a dollar amount?
     
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    Not necessarily.
     
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    So if not a dollar amount what are you looking for in determining the value of a human life?
     
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    All I'm asking is how you assess the value of a human life?
     
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    It's invaluable.
     
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    Until someone decides it's not.
     
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    They're not all valuable to me.
     
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    I can.
    Indeed, the mother and father have equal claim to ownership - which is to say, none whatsoever.
    And yours isn't valuable to me...

    ...so just hold still. This won't hurt for long.
     
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    There’s no rush, I’ve been waiting.
     
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    To whom?
     
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    I was referring to the fact that they're the parents and it is their child. What did you think I was talking about?
     
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    What isn't valuable to you?
     
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    Well for people of a religious belief, the value of life come from their beliefs. For the non-religious person,
    they will each decide the value of their own life at least and probably the value of the lives of their friends and family.
     
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    You are correct, however that is ALL totally and completely irrelevant! What is important is an individual's value that they place on their own life. Do you value you YOUR life? I'm still not sure whether or not you think that you have the right to life after what you've said in previous posts!
     
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    No, other than that. You have to be able to judge the value of each thing without considering where they are located. Anything less is being intellectually dishonest.

    How did the fetus get there? By the woman's own efforts? :roflol:
     
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    The reality is that simply being a human does not present one as having any value at all, other than what they exhibit acceptable to other humans.
     
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