Corbyn is Being Destroyed, Like Blowing Up a Bridge to Stop an Advancing Army <<MOD WARNNG>>

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  1. Baff

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    Part one and two, agree.
    Part 3, no.

    The banks were bailed out by the UK government.
    Tax payers money however was not used to do this. All the money used to do this was borrowed money.

    Borrowed against the leverage of future UK taxation.

    However.
    The UK government operates a deficit and has a huge national debt.

    And it had a deficit and a huge national debt before the bank crisis,

    Austerity is result of overspending. If you spend more than you earn, you will have to spend less.
    There is no choice in this. Either you will spend less by your own choice on your own terms, or lenders will cease lending to you.
    And you will cease overspending anyway.
    Cf Greece.
    No matter how sexy and persuasive you think Yannis Verofakkis is, no one was willing to lend to Greece.
    He argued that everyone should, but all the lenders refused. And with good reason. Greece had just defaulted on 99% if the previous debt. The money he was asking to borrow, he intended to steal.


    Austerity is the result of overspending. Yes money was borrowed to insure the banks, but the overspending problem already existed.
    There is no deficit without austerity. The rate at which you can keep eating cake reduces to zero when the cake has been eaten.



    4 Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with the banking crash.
    Parallel universe.
    The top stated reason for Brexit was migration issues.
    The other big ones were sovereignty, democratic corruption, national identity, unfavourable trade deal.
     
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    No deal is better than a deal the Breximists do not want, is it?

    The lie exposed.

    Brexit Impact Assessment Regional AAV.png

    read more http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2018/02/now-we-know-why-tories-were-so-keen-to.html

    So I ought to be budgeting for 9% less a year whereas if we had stayed in the single marke, breximists would only have cost me a 2.5% drop in income.

    The Tories Hard Breximists are hoping to blame it all on the EU whereas someone like me who has hardly followed it, knows enough to know that No Deal was all they were ever after.
     
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    This is how "racism" works from an Australian perspective.
    Tell people aborigines should get a job is "racist"
    Say aboriginal outstations should be policed and you are is "racist"
    Say lenient sentencing for aboriginals will lead to more crime is "racist"
    Say you don't support an aboriginal flag or state or constitutional amendment is "racist"
    etc. depressing etc..

    But, you can say Jews own the banks, control the world, steal Palestinian land, falsely claim
    ancestral heritage on Israel and kill "innocent" Arabs AND NOT BE A RACIST.
    And on top of that you can support all the monsters, dictators, bomb throwers and the
    like who abuse their own people worse than the Jews and you are still not a racist.

    Corbyn is lucky. He isn't held to the same standard he applies to others.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks, you have shown you have no evidence and just want to talk about your feelings.
     
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    No, I am not a Leftie.
    I don't need "safe spaces" or the need to shut down or "dis-invite" speakers
    at my campus.

    Corbyn has spent much of his life in the company of holocaust-deniers, terrorist
    lovers and anti-semites. His public statements, and his actions in the past, shows
    he is no different. All that's on public record. He did well to expel from the party
    some of the more egregious examples of this - but there's no denying he is anti-
    semitic himself.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But there's something worse than mere racism at play here - it's Socialism.
    It has never worked, never will work and it's inherently immoral. If Britain
    became a Socialist country, and managed, like Venezuela, to maintain
    this system against the wishes of the general public, then you can kiss
    Britain goodbye.

    Corbynism would take its place alongside Castroism, Ba'athism and Maduraism.
     
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    Obviously without you giving real examples and without spending time studying racism in Australia which is not the subject of this thread this cannot be answered properly. However a quick search does suggest Australia has a problem with racism


    https://www.google.com/search?q=is+Is+australia+racist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab

    Of course sometimes people are unaware of what racism is.
     
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    Feelings nothing more than feelings, when you have a single fact, rather than your feelings get back to me.
     
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    Ok. The first thing we need to deal with is that reporting of Corbyn which is where you will have got your ideas from has not been up to a standard expected in a democracy

    This is impossible to cut and past or I would. However the last paragraph of the Forward says
    http://www.lse.ac.uk/media@lse/research/pdf/JeremyCorbyn/Cobyn-Report-FINAL.pdf


    Thankfully this article rebuts in detail with facts not emotions all of the accusations you make. Please study it well.

    https://medium.com/justpolitical/corbyns-links-to-terrorists-antisemites-and-dictators-6018ad09a14

    A warning was also given about the media and those of the financial elite who favoured a hard brexit in respect to how it reported re brexit in this post http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rmy-mod-warnng.540564/page-21#post-1069649011
     
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    Strangely enough they are also unaware that there opinion is not evidence or fact, just feelings. Not one example of antisemitism from Corbyn has been shown by anyone on here unless you count the fact he does not kowtow to the Apartheid, land stealing and terrorist formed Jewish State.
     
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    Is this Corbyn's POV? If so he's antisemitic. Without the "land stealing" of their own country
    back, and the "terrorism" of defending it against the Nazi loving cut-throats who refused to
    accept the world's wishes in 1948, the Jews wouldn't have their homeland - and remain, as
    they have been for thousands of years - at the mercy of their client nations.
    If you are antisemitic and deny it to yourself, then you can't see it in others.
    Corbyn is smart enough not to go for the Classic Protocols of Zion stuff with the Jews, but just
    befriending Israel's murderous racist enemies, or even honoring those who murdered Jews, is
    enough for most thinking people.
    If he wasn't a Socialist you could at least say he'll have his day in the sun, like May, and become
    just a footnote in British history. But the hard left policies, which have never worked anywhere
    in history, will make it a hard landing for Britain.
     
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    Britain is well regarded with respect to media bias. It's there - can't avoid it. I understand
    you have the right wing Murdoch press and the left-wing BBC. Overall, I trust it.
    People say that Trump is supported by a "right wing press" despite me never having read
    a single favorable article about the guy as I trawl through American newspapers on-line.

    If you feel this is biased, can you nominate a country which is fairer in its press?
     
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    So still no evidence just you hurt feelings and revisionist history, at least the Holocaust denier Bibi offers some evidence to back up his claim for his Jewish State and holocaust revisionism.
     
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    The first cartoon shows the Jewish Terrorist scum escaping from prison over the dead bodies of the British Soldiers who had just saved some of the European Jews from the gas chamber!
    Historical revisionists cannot get rid of the evidence of what actually happened when the Jewish State was born of terrorism and land theft.
     
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    I provided you with a study done by the London School of Economics concerning the lack of balanced reporting concerning Corbyn. You are free to read it or not but you cannot make an argument against what they say without so doing.
     
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    Corbyn's clinging on to his 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can; he wants it to last forever. And to think that this prat could be our next PM!!
     
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    I am afraid recently the same can be said for Netanyahu and other Israelis re antisemitism - ignoring Charlottesville and Trumps response to it as well as forming good relationships with East European countries despite their antisemitism. It is the ethnic nationalists together. Other things are subordinate to that....for the time being.
     
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    And another one with no evidence just feelings. Oh how the right wing let their feelings run away with them!
     
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    Yes, make you wonder where all these fake antisemitism bleaters against Corbyn were when people in the US were running around with Nazi flags and Swastikas on thier arms!
     
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    I might do a search to check that out. I would be amazed if they kept quiet but...there is a much nearer home place where they are not kicking up and should be and that is with the Tory Party and the far right - in this similar to Netanyahu.

    https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/9244/

    It is incredibly foolhardy for British Jews to ignore genuine antisemitism but this seems to be the place where those on the right seem to have found themselves seemingly putting their loyalty to Israel above their own needs.
     
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    My history is rusty. But I recall one Jew who sought to make an impression upon the
    Nazis by miming everything the Germans thought Jews were. And no, it wasn't like
    the utterly Germanic, loyal, cosmopolitan, secular Jew who was the reality of Germany
    in the 1930's, but as a little guy with the monocle, top hat and cigar. Probably with a
    Star of David around his neck for good measure.
    And this guy paraded before one of Hitler's top echelon - Eichman, or Himler or such.
    I found the story fascinating.
    There's nearly 21 million sites dealing with antisemitism on Google.
    I was watching videos yesterday on one of the Jews - Phil Spector, the "wall of sound"
    guy. Certainly these people have contributed much to the world. It's amazing that here
    and now they have their own country back again. In 1900 the intellectuals thought the
    idea of Zionism was something to mock. But they were wrong. At every turn many have
    written them off, ie 1948, 1967 and 1973.[/Quote][/QUOTE]
     
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    No revisionism is necessary. Stories like the Stern gang occupy a lot of historic print
    in Israeli history.
    I knew an old British guy who served in Palestine. He told me he would have gone to
    jail if he lost his rifle. The Jews were desperate for arms. Instead the British handed
    military supplies and facilities to the Arabs. Those Jews who terrorized the British did
    Israel a serious disservice, and many Jews said as much.
    Come 1948 and the Jews were left with desperately few arms to fend off seven Arab
    nations. Some of these nations, like Jordan, were even trained by the British.
     
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    One of the main arguments made by people like Shapiro and D'Souza when
    they go onto America campuses is that students get upset with their facts.
    Not just upset to the point of activating fire alarms, smashing windows,
    screaming in loud speakers, boycotting or fleeing to safe rooms - but that
    these students have never heard these facts before.
    Just yesterday in watching some of these funny videos I learned that in the
    USA it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the later segregation.
    And not a single Republican at Lincoln's time supported or owned a slave.
    I respected how these men carefully and patiently (and bravely) presented
    facts which even many college teachers did not know.
     
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    What you mean like terrorist scum Begin the founder of the Likud party who on Feb 1st 1944 organised a revolt against the british even as they were planing for D-Day and the eventual liberation of the death camps? This cowardly piece of filth fled his homeland and chose to fight the British rather than the Nazi's in order to steal somebody elses land. Why would the british hand over guns to a dirty peace of **** like him? And how did many Jews reward him, by making him prime minister until even they could not stomach his murderous ways in the Lebanon!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin

    And the Jordans Arab Legion were actually led by a British officer perhaps the reason why the dirty ungrateful filth could not steal as much land as they wanted in 1948, Arabs led by brits have always been a formidable fighting force as shown by the fact Palestine was liberated by Brits and Arabs in WW1 whilst the Jews looked after mules.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence
    http://www.historynet.com/glubb-pasha-and-the-arab-legion.htm
    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_palestine.html


    Actually learn the history and myth of the creation of the Jewish State rather than what your feelings tell you.

    Now have you found any evidence of Corbyn being antisemetic or is it just your feelings still?
     
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    This stuff is in the history books of Israel.
    On the other side of the coin, Palestinian history is often not in Palestinian books.
    Someone made the remark that how a nation treats its Jewish minorities says a
    lot about how that nation feels ABOUT ITSELF.
    That could apply to individuals, too.
    Corbyn would agree with your sentiments. He's a politician so can't express them
    so freely, but now his past is coming back to haunt him - complete with imagery.

    It's no Jewish conspiracy - happens all the time in politics now. Just read about the
    guy who wants nomination to the Supreme Court in USA - some girl dragged up
    something she claimed he did when he was 17. Is that fair, really?
     

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