Kavanaugh: Did he do it?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Natty Bumpo, Sep 17, 2018.

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Did Kavanaugh do it?

  1. No, because I like Trump.

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    7.1%
  2. Yes, because I don't like Trump.

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  3. I don't know. The vote should be delayed and Christine Blasey Ford should testify.

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  4. I don't know. Kavanaugh should be confirmed quickly, and Christine Blasey Ford should be ignored.

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    35.7%
  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    with all the sexual abuse happening in the Church, think the right would not want to ellect republicans accused of sexual abuse

    Roy more lost cause many Democrats got out and voted and some repubus did not vote, sadly most republicans there did vote for Moore, some even defending him using the bible, saying Joseph and Mary did it

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  2. Pollycy

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    You raise a good point. The difference, though, is that the case against the Catholic Church is strong and supported by many real victims who have come forth, SHOWN THEIR FACES, and have testified that these things happened, with verifiable details, including places, dates, and names!

    Maybe this fake 'Pope', Francis, should resign his fake 'papacy' and instead try get a late-night TV show gig on one of the networks. He's a big enough liberal to be able to swing it....
     
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    You're kidding me with these nonsense "options", right?

    I'll take the word of the thousands of other women who have known Kavanaugh over a single member of the anti-Trump resistance who has been busy deleting her internet history.

    She has nothing to show us except her obvious mental health issues.
     
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    You mean other than the Catholic church being led by a Hollywood-loving SJW pope, right?
     
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    Sessions won that seat 63% to 37% the last time he actually had a legitimate democrat opponent (2008, in 2014, the dems didn't even have a real candidate, just a last minute write in). Republicans not voting for Moore is the reason Moore lost.
     
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    just like the Church, they did not want real investigations
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ama-election-analysis/?utm_term=.6d7de69ad12e

    dems got 50% of the vote, republicans got 48% - that is a lot of Republicans voting for Roy Moore

    had the additional dems, women and minorities not got out and voted, Roy Moore would of won

    I think we will see more women and minorities vote in 2018 and 2020 then ever before, 2016 was a wake up call that their votes count
     
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    Yes, it is obviously in the interest of Brett Kavanaugh (aka "Brent O'Kavanaugh") and commensurate with the agenda of hyper-partisans that Dr Ford's credibility be summarily savaged, but the pursuit of truth demands a dispassionate assessment of the differing accounts.
     
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    What credibility does she have?

    Where can I go to check her credibility?

    I'll believe the hundreds, if not thousands, of other women who have worked with or are otherwise involved in Kavanaugh's life over the last 40 years.

    You're welcome to keep pantomiming "the truth" if you'd like.

    The only people who agree with you are the mimes in the troupe.
     
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    I didn’t vote because it’s a loaded poll.

    Yes, he probably did it but was too drunk in those days to remember. Ford can present pictures of the assault and he’d still be confirmed, so all of this is just a partisan circus. Republicans don’t give a **** about women outside the home and Democrats just use them to score points against Republicans. Nobody in Washington really gives a damn about Ford.
     
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    If you need to have "hundreds, if not thousands" of women recounting the same story regarding what Brett Kavanaugh (aka "Brent O'Kavanaugh") allegedly did 36 years ago, that would mean that he has remained in quite the rut, and that he is a chronic alcoholic as well as sexually predatory.

    A woman has come forth with an allegation that is obviously in Kavanaugh's interest to deny. I see no reason either should be pre-judged and reviled - although some with a blatantly partisan agenda are doing that on both sides.
     
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    Oh I see. So all of the other people in his personal and professional life are just proof of his guilt.

    No she hasn't come forward, she's hiding behind Feinstein.

    She can show up Monday if she'd like and tell us allllll about it.
     
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    You can pretend that regarding Kavanaugh, Ford, or whomever else you like.

    The reality is that even the most depraved among us are not invariably monstrous 24/7, and that some who become drunk to the point of passing out behave in aberrant ways they would not otherwise and have no memory of it.
     
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    No, the most depraved among you are certainly monstrous 24/7.
     
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    It's hard to say mostly when she did not complain before and only now when it appears energizing the political circus.
     
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    she did pass a lie detector test, has Kavanaugh

    and why is the friend of Kavanaugh saying he wont defend him under oath?
     
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    Exactly right. The confirmation process is a job interview, no more, no less. Millions of Americans have not been hired due to questions much less sordid than this that pop up during the interview process. Kavanaugh should quietly withdraw and hope that some intrepid prosecutor in Maryland doesn't file charges, since there is no statute of limitations for felony sexual assault in that state.
     
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    IF Kavanaugh is so god-cursed innocent then why isn't he DEMANDING an FBI investigation to clear his name.?

    For the same reason that Trump isn't, because he's gulity as sin and doesn't want an investigation to confirm that. Why else would he be against it?

    This has been the Republican tactic for two years now, I call it the coital defense. ADMITTING you are guilty for all intents and purposes and then saying "**** you, we have the majority"

    "**** you, we're not going to impeach Trump even if it comes out he was delivering full ballot boxes to Putin in his car, and we're confirming this guy even if we find half-eaten girl scout corpses in his basement. We have the majority, there is no right and wrong and we're Making America Great Again. **** you. "
     
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    It may interest you to find out, Alex, the Brett Kavanaugh has already been investigated by the FBI no less than SIX TIMES! Moreover, it is not the duty or responsibility of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to examine "he said/she said" nonsense from DECADES AGO in which there is nothing to investigate!

    Where was the 'crime' committed? For that matter, in WHAT YEAR was the 'crime' committed? The only apparent witnesses who have any knowledge of the 'crime' have refused to provide support or credibility to the the fabrications offered by either Blasey Ford or Ramirez. What would you have the FBI 'investigate'?

    Maybe you'd like to have the sickeningly-biased, pro-Democrat FBI 'investigate' in the same way the Gestapo 'investigated' people in the Nazi days? Many hyperliberal Democrats would LOVE that! Condemnation without any evidence!

    >> It would be the perfect, exact opposite of the FBI standard that was used to 'investigate' Hillary Clinton's very real, very OBVIOUS crimes against national security and classified information... but that would meet your approval... right? :evil:
     
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    That's what her lawyer says.

    What were the questions she was asked on the polygraph?

    All four people Ford says were there have submitted official written testimony to Congress. All four say it never happened.

    The only person who has not, is Ford.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...-1-accuser-has-not-spoken-judiciary-committee
     
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    Forum right wingers continue to condemn Hillary and demand that she be locked up. This after YEARS of Republican Congressional investigations that have found ZERO, ZILCH, NADA of evidence against her.

    Very Nazi like, right?

    Let's see you apply your standard to them.
     
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    I voted the last option on this flamebait poll. There's no proof this happened, and it conveniently came out during this process.

    Not only that, the "witnesses" don't have their story straight.

    Either replace him or confirm him. Just make a move...
     
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    I voted: I don't know. The vote should be delayed and Christine Blasey Ford should testify.


    Let us exam ALL facts then we can make a more informed decision one way or the other.
     
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    Sure, testify, but what evidence is there beside a "he said she said"? Even the witnesses can't get their story straight. How will a testimony prove anything?

    Some of the witnesses don't even remember the party! They cited the wrong one.

    I'm sorry but this is just politically motivated.

    Much like the Clinton accusers.

    Sure, testify, what good or bad will that do? Neither- we can't prove anything
     
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    Don't know is the only logical response. If you believe her you're a partisan hack. If you don't believe her you're a partisan hack.

    "As we prepare to hear testimony from Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser Christine Blasey Ford, however, I find myself once again disappointed by the tribalism exhibited by both sides. According to a recent YouGov poll, 53 percent of Democrats consider Ford’s allegations credible, compared to only 4 percent of Republicans. Ah! Yes! Down with the evil, misogynistic GOP—the “party of rape,” as I’ve seen them called on Twitter.

    But wait. Meanwhile, in Minnesota, Democratic Congressman Keith Ellison is currently favored to be elected as the state’s next attorney general despite ex-girlfriend Karen Monahan’s allegations of sustained “emotional and physical abuse.” One poll shows that, while 42 percent of Republicans believe Monahan, only 5 percent of Democrats do."

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/metoo-falls-to-tribalism-kavanaugh-ellison-trump/
     

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